在司法系统中 In the criminal justice system,
两个职能不同 the people are represented
但同等重要的机构代表人民行使权力 by two separate yet equally important groups:
警察调查罪案 The police who investigate crime,
检察官对罪犯提起公诉 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
以下就是他们的故事 These are their stories.
那个聚会根本没有邀请名单 Man, that toilet didn't even have a guest list.
那些人怎么进去的 Well, those other people got in.
你坐豪华轿车来 就能进去 Yeah, you come in a limo, you get in.
那我们去奶吧试试看 So, uh, we try the Milk Bar.
我觉得我认识那个把门的 I think I did the doorman.
至少那个人是这么说的 Well, that's who he said he was.
凶手走得很匆忙 Whoever did it was in a hurry.
他的钱包还在这 叫Nicolas lliescu Left his wallet. Name's Nicolas lliescu.
住在第28街 Lives on 28th St.
他们用的什么凶器，奶酪刨么 What'd they kill him with, a cheese grater?
人行道上拖死的 高速 Dragged on the pavement. High speed.
肇事逃逸 Hit and run?
如果是意外的话 Hit someone accidentally,
可不需要给他脑袋上补两枪 you don't need to shoot them twice in the head.
有目击者么 We got some witnesses?
有 Yeah.
你们看到事情的经过了 You girls see what happened?
有辆车突然冒出来 This car just came out of nowhere
拖着这个人 with this guy dragging alongside.
从哪里过来的 Came from where?
那边从13街逆行过来 There. Wrong way up 13th.
扔下这个男人然后就开走了 It tore down here and kept going.
有看到开车的人么 Did you get a look at who was driving?
白人 黑人 男性还是女性 White? Black? Male? Female?
没有 No.
那么那辆车呢 How about the car?
我不懂汽车 不过看起来不像是新的 I don't know cars. I mean, it wasn't real new.
是两个门的还是四个门的 Was it a two-door or a four-door?
深色浅色 Light? Dark?
不知道 Don't know.
我把我的名片给你 I'm gonna give you my card.
如果你想起来什么 记得给我打电话 好么 If you remember anything, I want you to call me, okay?
查到什么 What do you got?
一无所获 Nada.
可能是黑手党 Could be the mob.
可能是劫车的 Could be a carjacking.
也可能是哪个出租车司机嫌他给的小费少 Could be a hack who didn't like his tip.
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法律与秩序
第三季 第20集
"事故现场的玻璃碎片无法得出结果 "Glass fragments from the accident site inconclusive.
"尸检显示头部有两处进入伤 "Autopsy shows two close contact entry wounds to the head.
"在颅底发现了9毫米子弹 "A 9-millimeter slug found at the base of the skull."
弹道测试为贝雷塔92型 Lands and grooves make it a Beretta.92.
数据库里面有匹配的么 Any ballistics match on the computer?
万事俱备只欠东风 So with hot water and a shoe, we could make soup.
车管局显示受害者有一辆 Okay. D.M.V. Shows our Mr. Iliescu owned
88年的酒红色庞蒂亚克博纳维尔 an '88 Pontiac Bonneville, burgundy.
为这个颜色的车死可真不值 It's hardly a color worth dying for.
他的妻子十五分钟后到停尸房 The wife is due at the morgue in 15 minutes.
让我们看看她知道点什么 Let's see what she knows.
我们家在30年前离开了匈牙利 My family and I left Hungary 30 years ago.
我们想要远离压迫 We wanted to get away of oppression.
Nicolas和我10年前离开了布加勒斯特 Nicolas and I left Bucharest 10 years ago
远离那里的暴力 To get away of the violence.
你说他在加班整账 You said he was working late on the books.
他打过电话么 Did he ever call?
打过 大概在12点30 Yes, around, uh, 12:30.
Leon睡的不是很好 他接的 Leon doesn't sleep well. He answered.
我当时实在是太累了 I... I was too tired to talk to him.
没事 没事 All right, all right.
Leon，你爸爸说什么了 What did your father say, Leon?
他是我叔叔 不是我爸 He's not my father, he's my uncle.
他说他在回家的路上 He said he was on his way home.
一分钟就好 可以吧 Just take a minute, all right?
肯定是弄错了 It's a mistake.
经常有弄错的事发生 Sometimes you read about mistakes.
恐怕这次不是 夫人 I'm afraid it's not, ma'am.
我们在你丈夫的身上发现了他的身份证 We found your husband's ID on the body.
不 No.
我很遗憾 I'm sorry.
车找到了 在下东城 Car's been found. Lower East Side.
海盗都会稍微留下点什么 Piranas leave more.
海盗不需要百元大钞买海洛因 Piranas don't need a daily C-note for crack.
你能查出来是什么车撞的么 Were you able to I.D. The car that did this?
油漆分析显示是一种白色丙烯酸磁漆 The paint pyrogram matched a white acrylic enamel.
很常见 Very widely used.
后备箱上的撞痕很高 The trunk was hit pretty high, huh?
是的 可能是卡车或者货车 Yeah. Probably a truck or a van.
撞的 It hits him.
他还没来得及下车检查撞的多严重 Before he even has a chance to get out and check the damage,
凶手就来到了副驾驶的位置上 the bad guy comes in the passenger side,
然后Iliescu先生就看到了那把Beretta and Mr. Iliescu is looking at the business end of a Beretta.
砰砰 Bang bang.
尸检说有一处是贯通伤 Autopsy says one was a clear-through.
我们在这找到了那颗子弹 We found the slug up here.
就在这 我们把它送去了弹道测试科 It was right there. We sent it to ballistics.
谢谢 Thanks.
然后他把Nick的尸体推下车 So he pushes Nick's body out of the car
带着他的战利品开走了 and he drives off with his prize.
是的 问题是 Yeah. Problem is,
他用安全带把Nick拴着 Nick gets caught in the seatbelt
拖了半个街区 and dragged for half a block.
这样不是很麻烦 为什么这么做呢 That's a lot of trouble, for what?
收支账簿 这笔2000块 减去剑士折扣 Blue Book, this is $2,000, minus a fencer's discount.
嘿 都有人为了坐地铁的零钱杀人 Hey, people get knocked off for subway change.
或许抢这车的人知道 Maybe the guys who stripped the car
它怎么出现在那个巷子的 know how it got into that alley.
是的 Yeah.
这些座椅一定是某个零件店里卖的 Those seats have to be in a chop shop somewhere.
好的 Yeah, all right.
谢谢合作 Well, thanks, anyway.
汽车犯罪科给了我们一个 Auto Crimes gave us a list
有前科的零件经销商的名单 of auto parts dealers with priors.
在纽约一定得有400多家 Must be over 400 auto body shops in New York.
还有其他不在名单上的吗 Any that didn't make the list?
88年的庞蒂亚克 Pontiac Bonneville, '88.
不 不 不是1-120s型的 是40-90s型的 有扶手 Yeah. No, no, not the 1-120s, the 40-90s with the armrest.
没有么 谢谢你 No? Thank you.
我正在找一两1988年的庞蒂亚克 Yeah, I'm looking for a 1988 Pontiac Bonneville.
驾驶座 灰色丝绒 前搭扣 Grey velour, driver's side front bucket seats.
40-90型的 有扶手 Yeah, model 40-90 with armrests.
很麻烦吗 Is that too much to ask?
那座椅是什么样的 Well, how about the seats?
你确定 You do?
稍等 你真的确定 Wait a second, are you sure?
因为我前天给你打电话 Because I called you the day before yesterday,
你当时说没有 and you didn't have any.
刚来 有点意思 Just came in? I'm interested.
我马上就到 谢谢 I'm gonna be right down. Thank you.
你找到什么了 What have you got?
莫里斯零件专卖 东四街107号 Morrie's Auto Wreckers, 107 East Fourth St.
他们同样适合86和87款 They also fit the '86 and '87 models.
在那 Here, they're right over here.
今早到的 Came in this morning.
把车开进来 我便宜帮你装 Bring the vehicle in, I'll install them cheap.
多少钱能把血清洗掉 How much to wipe off the blood?
血 别闹了 Blood? Come on.
那是冰淇淋或者番茄酱 That's, uh, ice cream or ketchup, uh.
他们有小孩 They had kids.
那些小孩肯定是孤儿 Those kids would be orphans.
那辆车昨晚在8个街区外 Hey, the car was stripped last night
被抢了 车主死了 eight blocks from here. The owner's dead.
打你一进来我就知道你是警察 I knew you were blue the minute you walked in.
随意来 拿走吧 Be my guest. Take them.
我需要一些名字 你从谁那买的 I'm gonna want some names. Who'd you buy it from?
我可没给他们寄过圣诞贺卡 I don't send these guys Christmas cards.
都是用现金交易的 The deal's strictly cash for parts.
听着 你如果不帮我们打听的话 Listen, you start poking around here
以后你就只能 or your deal's gonna be
挣点做车牌的钱来买烟了 making license plates for cigarette money.
我不知道他们的名字 I don't know their names.
他们只来过几回 They only come in a couple of times.
我帮一个家伙的面包车转过 长头发 I worked on one guy's van. Long hair.
好的 还有什么 All right, come on, what else?
比如果伤疤 纹身什么的 You know, scars, tattoos, what?
另一个人 The other guy, uh,
穿这件有铆钉的皮夹克 leather jacket with, uh, safety pins and studs.
后背写着"壮汉没困扰” On the back, says "No Bozo Jam."
听得我浑身发麻 I can hear it in my fillings.
你看有不扭的么 Doesn't anybody jitterbug anymore?
嗨 什么样的人才能得到你们的服务 Hey, what's a guy do to get served around here?
在鼻子上穿个洞么 Put a hole in his nose?
女士 你听说过壮汉没困扰这个乐队么 Miss, you ever hear of No Bozo Jam?
这是Dog和Razor酒吧 This is the Dog and Razor Club.
你们要是喜欢窝囊废俱乐部 You like loser groups,
去Shriek的星期二业余夜吧 try Tuesday amateur night at Shriek.
或许有他们的早期演出 Uh, maybe from some, uh, earlier gig?
这是他们的传单 Here's their flier.
好的 我们在哪能找到他们 Great. Where do we find them?
嗯 Oh, yeah.
Ronda曾经跟他们混过 You know, Ronda used to play sets with them.
Ronda在哪 Where's Ronda?
在洞穴乐队当鼓手 On percussion at The Hole.
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我不想 You know, I don't want it around
让太多人知道我跟那个乐队混过 that I played with No Bozo,
因为我的事业现在很顺利 because things are happening for me.
我们尽量不让这事儿传到滚石公司的耳朵里 We'll try to keep it out of Rolling Stone.
那是两个神经病 Two super dysfunctionals.
他们给白痴这个词增添了新含义 They, uh, give a new meaning to the word clueless.
说名字 We want names.
那个穿皮夹克的人 What about the guy who wears the leather jacket?
主唱Wayne Jeffers Skank. Wayne Jeffers, the lead singer.
那个叫 Then there was, um...
我记不清了 他是贝斯手 l... I don't... I don't remember. He played bass.
知道我们能在哪找到他们么 Any idea where we can find them?
如果他们没中大乐透的话 Uh, if they haven't won the lotto,
就在蒙贝尔大厦的贫民区 they're squattiing in the Belmont Building
D大道和六大街交叉口 over on Avenue D and Sixth.
和那辆被遗弃的车在一个街区 That's the same block as where we found the car.
把双手放在脑后 Get your hands behind your head!
手指交叉 双腿分开 Lace the fingers together! Spread your legs apart!
想都别想 Don't even think about it.
Wayne Jeffers你被捕了 Wayne Jeffers, you're under arrest.
设备呢 What about the equipment?
你光速啊 You're traveling light.
他的不是点9 Beretta No, he's not. 9-millimeter Beretta.
我告诉你 那辆车就在那 Look, I told you. The car was just there.
我们把能拿的都拿走了 就这样 We took what we could. End of story.
你杀了Nicolas lliescu之后 After you killed Nicolas lliescu.
我在前面的副驾驶座上发现的枪 I found the gun on the front seat, passenger side.
你在那发现了枪 You found the gun on the front seat
就没看到仪表盘上的脑浆么 and you didn't see his brains splattered all over the dashboard?
我看到了血和一些肉 Yeah, yeah, I saw the blood and the meat.
这附近本来就很乱 It's a tough neighborhood.
有人把车丢在那 你们想知道什么 Someone ditched the car. What do you want from me?
我们把那车的座椅和录音机拆下来换钱了 We stripped the car seats and the cassette decks for money,
可没杀人 but we didn't kill anyone.
当然 你从哪拿到的这个 Oh, sure. And where did you get this?
快点Skank 你不可能和你的发型一样傻 Come on, Skank, you can't be as dumb as your haircut!
我们在你裤兜里面发现了这个 We found this in your pants pocket!
它就在座位下面 It was under the seat.
我想也许可以换点东西 I thought it might be good for something.
是啊 比如盗窃罪 Yeah, like grand larceny,
出了偷窃和谋杀 which we're gonna add to the theft and murder charge.
我得跟你讲多少遍 How many times I gotta tell you?
我们没杀人 只是需要点钱花 We didn't kill anybody. We just needed some cash.
受害者头骨里的子弹跟那把Beretta匹配 Slugs in the vic's skull match the Beretta.
枪上面只有他的指纹 His are the only prints on it.
如果我要杀人 If I was gonna kill a guy,
你觉得我会为辆博纳维尔杀人 you think I'd do it for a Bonneville?
我觉得你为了根鞋带都愿意杀人 I think you'd do it for a shoelace.
你兄弟的指纹在枪上 Your buddy's prints are on the gun.
我猜 My guess is
他这会正在另一个审讯室正把你供出来 right now he's in the other room rolling on you.
说谎 That's a lie!
我告诉你 我们当时在表演 I told you, we was performing.
Skank 让我们做个简单的数学题 Let's try a little remedial math, Skank.
你们有两个人 但是只有一个交易 There's two of you, but there's only one deal.
那么谁来做这个辩诉交易呢 你还是他 Now, who's gonna get the deal, you or him?
不在场证明唱歌 虽然不能 Their alibi sings, even if they can't.
从午夜到早晨六点 Uh, from midnight to 6:00 a.M.,
他们在一个叫Dreck的俱乐部 Moe and Larry were popping eardrums
炸人耳膜 有150个目击者 at a club called Dreck. 150 witnesses.
谁能想到这俩小丑说的是实话 Who would've thought these clowns were telling the truth?
嘿 想找个替罪羊 Hey, you're looking for a patsy,
把车和枪丢在瘾君子区 what could be better than dumping the car and weapon
还有比这更好的办法么 in the middle of Junkieville?
第一个来"发财"的人就被当作杀人犯了 Yeah. The first vulture that comes along gets booked for murder.
要是这人再没不在场证明 The first vulture without an alibi
就得在监狱里呆上很长时间 gets locked in a cage for a very long time.
这些人很聪明 These guys are smart.
但是他们或许没有那么干净 Well, but maybe they werert so tidy.
正义兄弟1号说 Righteous brother number one claims
他在车里找到这个 he found this in the car.
Brian Hollingswon'th先生 Mr. Brian Hollingswon'th.
怎么 你觉得他匆忙离开时 掉在那里了 What, you think he was in a hurry to get out and dropped it?
出门带它真有用 So much for leaving home without it.
去查查他 Check him out.
上周我们低价赢了一个城区 Last week we came in low bid
法律事务所办公区的竞标 on office space for a midtown law firm.
每个建筑师的梦 Architect's dream.
我在PJ的酒吧请大家喝了一轮 Bought a round of Stoli at P.J.'s to celebrate
然后用它付款 and I paid for it with this.
好吧 但是你的名字也在这个上面 Yeah, well, your name is also on this.
这是我的旧卡 我得把它注销了 That's my old number. I had to cancel that card.
有人用它买了7000元的东西 Someone charged $7,000 in merchandise.
他们说有人窃取了我的卡号 They said someone had gotten my number
伪造了一张卡 and made a phony card.
你听说过lliescu古董家具店么 Have you ever heard of lliescu Antique Furniture Store?
知道 我妻子在那买了个书柜 Yes. My wife and I bought a credenza,
法国货 a French provincial,
只是我的装璜师说那是匈牙利产的 only our decorator said it was actually Hungarian.
那你是用信用卡买下它的 And you bought it with a credit card?
不 他们那不能刷卡 No, they wouldn't take cards.
我只能用支票付了 I had to pay by check.
我不觉得这两件事儿有什么联系 I don't... I don't see the connection.
Nicolas lliescu，那个店主，被杀了 Nicolas lliescu, the owner, was murdered
我们在他的车上找到了这张卡 and this card was found in his car.
我不会有什么危险吧 Well, I'm not in any kind of danger, am I?
这么说卖他书柜的人伪造了他的卡 So he bought the credenza from the guy who fakes his card?
是的 Yeah.
但是那个人都没见过他的卡 又怎么能伪造呢 But how did he fake the card without seeing it?
我两周前买了件夹克 You know, I bought a jacket two weeks ago,
但是我的信用卡已经刷爆了 所以我给了他张支票 but my card was loaded, so I wrote him a check.
知道后来怎么样了么 And you know what else?
你得给他两张身份证明表格 You had to give two forms of I.D.
驾照和信用卡 Your driver's license and your credit card.
我们去查了Hollingswon'th先生开卡的那家银行 So we checked the bank that issued Hollingswon'th's credit card.
在过去的六个月 In the last six months,
有一打顾客投诉诈骗 they had a dozen customers complain of fraudulent charges.
在这12个人中 And of those 12,
有四个在lliescu的店里买过家具 four of them bought furniture from lliescu's store.
都是用的支票 All by check,
而且他们都填过两张表 and they all gave him two forms of I.D.,
其中有一张写的是信用卡的信息 one of which was a credit card.
那lliescu复制号码 伪造了这些卡片 So lliescu copies the number, prints up a phony card,
用它们付账 and runs up a tab all over town.
你觉得他被杀也和这个有关 What, you figure the murder's related?
已经成功犯了一起重罪 干嘛不多来几起呢 Successful at one felony, why not branch out?
或许他有同伙 其中一个起了贪心 Could be he had a partner and one of them got greedy.
好的 跟他的妻子谈谈 Okay, talk to his wife.
五年前 Five years ago,
我们回欧洲待了8个星期 we went back to Europe for eight weeks.
我们把公寓转租了出去 We sublet the apartment.
Nickie想要把这份收入也报上去 Nickie wanted to declare the income on our taxes.
我说"谁会知道呢" I said, "Who is gonna know?"
他说"我会" He says, "I will."
Nickie不可能干这种事的 So there is no way Nickie was involved in this.
我知道... I know...
我非常了解他 I knew him.
他有赌博过 Did he gamble,
或者其他什么爱好么 or did he have any other hobbies?
他工作 回家 就这样 He worked. He came home. That's all.
夫人 据我们了解 Ma'am, we do know
这个案子是从你们店里开始的 the crime originated in your store.
那是他的商店 但还有其他人在那儿工作 Well, it was Nickie's store, but other people worked there.
Iliescu夫人 Mrs. Iliescu,
如果你给我们许可 If you'd give us your permission,
我们可以去搜查一下店 uh, we can look around the store.
Nickie的哥哥Alex应该在那 Nickie's brother, Alex, should be there.
告诉他我同意就行了 Just tell him I said it was okay.
我们国家的警察可不用这么麻烦 It was much easier for the police in my country.
不像这儿还得有个搜查令什么的 Here, the police need things like warrants.
如果店主同意我们就不用了 Well, we don't need one when the owner consents.
哦 是Karen Ah, Karen.
这种情况下 她还是很坚强 She's doing very well now, under the circumstances.
你为Nick工作了很多年 是吧 You worked for Nick for a long time, didn't you?
嗯嗯 Mmm-hmm.
我在我的国家像你一样 You know, I was like you in my country.
也是个警察 A policeman.
现在我为我的弟弟修椅子 Now I fix chairs for my baby brother.
警探 后面没什么问题 Detective, there's a safe back here.
有时客人给现金 Sometimes we are paid in cash.
你不介意吧 You mind?
Tommy 把那个保险柜给这些绅士们打开 Tommy, open the safe for these gentlemen.
Tommy是个诚实勤恳的家伙 Tommy's a hard worker, an honest man,
他这样的人在我们国家可不多见 something else you don't find many of back home.
是啊 我们这也没有多少 Yeah, there's not many here either.
你们真的认为Nick和这个 You really think Nick was involved
信用卡诈骗有关 with this, uh, credit card thing?
你觉得呢 Do you?
有时生意不太好 Well, sometimes business wasn't so great.
知道我什么意思了吧 See what I mean?
这是什么 公司的账目么 What are these, corporate ledgers?
你是警察 You're the cop.
我们检查了Iliescue店里 We checked the signatures
考勤卡上的签名 on the time cards in lliescu's store.
然后呢 And?
走廊尽头的Jerry That Jerry down the hall?
他会告诉你 He'll tell you a mars
从指纹可以看出一个人的性格 fingerprint will divulge his entire personality
你要问我 我觉得那是扯淡 You ask me, that's a bunch of crap.
签名是个很神奇的东西 Signature, that's a horse of a different color.
我们只想知道有没有匹配的 We just want to know if any of these match.
自己看 Well, look for yourself.
看到Tommy最后的那个“Y”了么 See the "Y" At the end of Tommy?
看到那个向上的角度和长度 The angle of the upstroke and how it's cut short?
再看看O'Malley最后那个“Y” Now look at the "Y" In O'Malley.
很像 Close.
你要是还看不到 You get that close at the track,
那就该退休了 you retire early.
你的意思是Tommy伪造了这些 So you're saying that Tommy Zanescu forged these?
应该是 Looks like it.
给我个完整的样本 我就能确定 Give me a full exemplar, I'll know for sure.
谢谢 Thanks.
我们现在可以以偷窃罪逮捕他 Hey, we can pick him up now on grand theft.
然后呢 迫使他承认谋杀 And what, squeeze him till he confesses to murder?
鉴证科说 Forensics says
lliescu的车被一辆卡车撞了 that lliescu's car was rammed by a truck.
家具店用卡车运货 Furniture stores make deliveries.
你开玩笑么 Are you kidding me?
我们都想奴隶一样工作 These guys are slave drivers.
Julio和我有时每天跑十趟 Me and Julio, sometimes up to 10 deliveries a day.
这就是为什么我会吃得如此健康 That's why I eat so healthy, guys.
面包夹香肠是你平时的三大基本食物之一 A slice with some sausage is one of your three basic food groups.
嘿 他们可没让你和Julio Hey, you and Julio, they don't make you
把钢琴背到城里去 lug pianos uptown on your backs.
帮个忙 别告诉他们是我说的 Do me a favor. Don't give them any ideas, all right?
为了省钱 他们会私下里用这他的卡车 To save a buck, these guys'll probably ditch the truck.
什么样的 Hector What kind of truck, Hector?
白色福特 Ford. White.
有人最近修过保险杠么 Anybody, uh, fix the bumper lately?
我已经好几天没见到了 Hey, I haven't even seen it in a couple of days.
Tommy上周二开走了 Tommy took it, um, last Tuesday.
没开回来么 And he never brought it back?
帮我个忙 找到它 Hey, do me a favor. You find it,
我可不急 你懂的 I'm in no rush, all right. Know what I mean?
O'Malley, Hollingswon'th, Ford, Cohen O'Malley, Hollingswon'th, Ford, Cohen.
我可不认识这些人 I don't know these people.
太有趣了 That's funny,
你可是从他们的卡里面取走了8万元 'cause you ran up over $80,000 on their cards.
我可没在上面看到我委托人的名字 I don't see my client's name anywhere.
我们的笔迹鉴定专家告诉我们 Our handwriting expert tells us
这些都是他签的 that he signed every one of those.
笔迹鉴定专家 下一步是什么 Handwriting expert? What's next?
或许你想看看他的手相 Maybe you want to read his palm?
或者是看看茶叶渣 Or how about some tea leaves?
我听说这样占卜很灵的 I hear they're very good for telling the future.
你想知道未来么 Hey, you want to know the future?
在Attica监狱呆25年 Try 25 years in Attica.
我不知道 F. Lee Yahoo怎么跟你说的 Tommy Hey, I don't know what F. Lee Yahoo here told you, Tommy,
不过伪造、盗窃罪你是跑不掉了 but we got you for forgery and grand larceny
光这俩罪就能让你在牢里呆不少年 and that adds up to a lot of years all by itself.
要是再加上二级谋杀 And then when you add murder two...
你们不能把我跟谋杀罪联系上 You cannot tie me to any murder.
那个送货员告诉我们你把卡车开走了 The delivery man told us you took the truck.
找到它只是时间问题 It's only a matter of time until we find it
如果我们发现上面的油漆 and if we find any paint
和Nikc车的缓冲器上的吻合 from Nick's car on the bumper...
噢 Lennie 稍等稍等 Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, Lennie.
让Forrelli先生给他解释解释这个 Let Mr. Forrelli here explain it to him.
你就是雇他干这个的 不是吗 That's what you're paying him for, right?
我知道你有同伙 We know there were two.
告诉我们他的名字 Just tell us who the other person was.
或许我们还能给你减几年 Maybe we can work something out here.
我不知道在你的国家 I don't know if they give out gold stars
他们会不会为你的忠诚颁发一枚奖章 for loyalty in your country,
但是在这 你只能得到一件条纹睡衣（指囚服） but over here, all you get is a set of striped pajamas
还有贴在头上的“傻瓜”两个字 and the word "Schmo" Stamped on your forehead.
世界没你想的那么大 The world's not as big as you think it is, Tommy.
我们会找到你的同伙 We're gonna find your partner.
你得问问你自己 The question you have to ask yourself,
他会像你一样忠诚么 will he be this loyal to you?
你们有权做交易么 You have authority to deal?
我们会告诉检察官的 We have the D.A.'s ear.
是Alex Alex.
Nick的哥哥？ Nick's brother?
Nick发现了 Nick found out.
他搜查商店 找到了伪造的信用卡 He searched the store, found the forged cards...
然后你就杀了Nick And you killed Nick
阻止他报案么 to keep him from going to the police?
我以为我们只是把卡拿回来 I thought we were just going to get the cards back.
我没想到他会杀了他弟弟 I never thought he'd kill his own brother.
卡车在哪 Where's the truck?
在科罗纳 108街的一个租来的车库里 In a rent-a-garage on Corona, 108th St.
你确定这样没问题么 You sure this is okay?
是他自己把钥匙给我们的 不是吗 The guy gave us the key, didn't he?
我觉得这有点问题 You know, I thought something was wrong.
他在曼哈顿做生意 Guy has a business in Manattan.
为什么要在皇后区租个车库 Why does he want a garage in Queens?
白色福特面包车 White Ford van!
那两个人 会乱说话 Those two guys, a guy could tell.
你知道我的意思 You know what I mean.
明白了 谢谢 Yeah, thanks.
Lennie!
我想知道他是否跟他的保险经纪人说这个了 I wonder if he reported that to his insurance agent.
酒红色的油漆 Burgundy paint.
跟他弟弟车上的颜色一样 Just like his brother's Bonneville.
罗马尼亚语的"你被捕了"怎么讲 What's Romanian for "You're under arrest"?
你们搞错了 This is a mistake.
听起来和英语一样啊 Sounds just like English.
Alex lliescu你因谋杀Nicolas lliescu Alex lliescu, you're under arrest
被逮捕 for the murder of Nicolas lliescu.
你有权保持沉默 You have the right to remain silent.
你说的任何一句话都将作为 Anything you say can be used
呈堂证供 against you in a court of law...
"第651328号案件 "Docket number 651328.
"检方公诉 Alexei Iliescu "People v. Alexei Iliescu on the charge
"二级谋杀 "Of murder in the second degree,
"一级抢劫 "Robbery in the first degree,
还有一级欺诈" and scheme to defraud in the first degree."
被告如何申辩 How does the defendant plead?
所有指控无罪 I plead not guilty to all counts.
检方如何回应Iliescu先生 And the State's response to Mr. Iliescu's
的无罪申辩 sweeping declaration of innocence?
他作为一个罗马尼亚人 As a Romanian national, we feel
我们认为他有很大的潜逃风险 Mr. Iliescu represents a strong risk of flight.
我们请求将他拘留不得取保 We ask he be held without bail.
这是你对一个新兴的民主国家所发出的信息么 That's the message you send to the emerging democracies?
保释金为50万 Bail is set at $500,000.
法官大人 Iliescu先生 Your Honor, Mr. Iliescu struggles
靠一个小家具店艰难谋生 to earn a living in a small furniture store.
我欣赏他为完成自己的美国梦 I appreciate his efforts
所付出的努力 in pursuit of the American dream,
但是谋杀是个错误的方式 but murder simply is the wrong approach.
我求Nick不要让Alex参与我们的生意 I begged Nick not to let Alex into the business.
但他不能拒绝他的哥哥 He could not refuse his brother.
他就是这么报答Nick的 This is how he repays Nick.
我向你保证 Alex会为他所做的一切付出代价的 I assure you, Alex will pay for what he did.
我看过报纸 Stone先生 I read the papers, Mr. Stone.
我知道想要定一个人的罪是多么困难 I see how difficult it is to convict a criminal.
我会尽全力帮你 I will help you.
我会代表检方作证的 I will testify on behalf of the State.
但是你得有与案件的 But unless you have specific evidence
相关证据 relating to the crime...
他不止杀了Nick My Nickie wasn't the first he killed!
你还知道他犯过其他罪行 You have knowledge of other crimes?
在罗马尼亚 Alex是城管的长官 In Romania, Alex was an officer in the Securitate,
那个神秘的部门 the secret police.
他杀了好几百人 He killed hundreds.
我了解 I understand,
但是法庭可能会裁定那不被采纳 but the court may rule that inadmissible.
如果Leon Now, if Leon...
Leon和这个没有关系 Leon has nothing to do with this.
Nick和我把他从哥哥身边带走 Nickie and I kept him away.
我们告诉他在这里 We taught him that here in America,
法律有它的意义 the laws mean something.
Stone先生 我希望我们没有跟他讲错 I hope we didn't taught him wrong, Mr. Stone.
Iliescu夫人 请听我说 Mrs. Iliescu, please listen to me.
我认为 In my opinion,
我们有足够的证据定Alex的罪 we have sufficient evidence to convict Alex.
希望你不是在开空头支票 Hope you're not making hollow promises.
Kaplan刚刚提出动议 Kaplan just brought this motion to suppress
排除所有在车库里发现的证据 all the evidence found in the garage.
Stone先生我很惊讶 你没有申请搜查令 I'm a little surprised, Mr. Stone. No warrant.
法官大人 我认为没有必要那么做 It wasn't necessary, Your Honor.
他们有许可 They had consent.
不是车主的许可 契约上 From the wrong person. You'll see on the lease
Alex lliescu是那个车库 Alex lliescu is the sole renter
的唯一租借人 of the storage garage.
Tommy没有权力许可 Tommy Zanescu didn't have authority to consent.
他们有共同使用权 法官大人 They had joint authority, Your Honor.
契约上并未有表面共同使用权 I don't see any reference to joint authority
的字眼 in this lease.
Zanescu先生给了警官们钥匙 Mr. Zanescu gave the officers the keys.
那又怎样 门卫很有可能有这个办公室的钥匙 So what? The janitor probably has keys
但是他无权许可一次搜查 to this office. He can't consent to a search.
就算警官们犯了一个技术上的错误 Well, even if the officers had made a technical mistake,
鉴于伊利诺伊州诉Rodriguez案他们仍然可以搜查 under Illinois v. Rodriguez they still could search
只要他们善意认为Zanescu先生 with a good faith belief that Mr. Zanescu
很明显有许可权 had the apparent authority to consent.
如果是伦奎斯特大法官实施的搜查而不是 If Justice Rehnquist conducted the search instead of
纽约警察局 你是对的 the New York Police, you'd be right.
但是本州要求对 But this state requires some inquiry
应允人是否拥有该财产 as to whether the consenting party
做一些调查 controls the property.
那么警方是怎么做的呢 So what should the police have done?
合理的调查非常容易实现 Reasonable inquiry was easily available
在一个100英尺外的 in a file cabinet in the rental office
租赁办公室的文件柜里 just 100 feet away.
法官大人 Your Honor...
Stone先生 我不是很喜欢 Mr. Stone, I don't much fancy the thought
警察可以仅凭一个犯罪嫌疑人 of the police searching my home
可能提供钥匙和许可 because a suspected felon
就搜查我家这个想法 may give out keys and a say-so.
我宣布卡车以及所有车库里 I'm declaring the truck and all of the other evidence
发现的证据不可采纳 found in the garage inadmissible.
谢谢 法官大人 考虑到 Thank you, Your Honor. Considering
缺少指控我当事人的证据 the paucity of evidence against my client...
我比你早一步 Kaplan先生 I'm one step ahead of you, Mr. Kaplan.
撤销对Ilieascu先生的起诉 The case against Mr. Iliescu is dismissed.
我不明白 Ben 你没和我们的警察谈吗 I don't get it, Ben. Don't you talk
告诉他们法律是怎样 to our cops? Apprise them of the law?
他们的做法 They acted well
符合标准程序 within the boundaries of normal procedure.
他们不能预期所有法官的要求 They can't anticipate the call of every judge.
我们还有Tommy Zanescu的证词 We still have Tommy Zanescu's statement.
一个重罪犯的未经证实的证词 The uncorroborated testimony of a felon?
这周还想自讨苦吃吗 Feeling masochistic this week?
Kleinfeldt法官可不是唯一一个 Judge Kleinfeldt is not the only judge
喜欢在庭上讲证据的法官 that likes evidence in her courtroom.
车库的管理员可以指认Alex The manager of the garage can ID Alex.
是 Yes?
什么时候 When?
是的 他们在我办公室 Yes, they're in my office.
我们摆脱困境了 小伙们 Well, we're off the hook, boys.
Alex Iliescu被叫去 Alex lliescu has been called
更高级的法院问话了 to answer before a higher court.
这三个至上背部的深伤口 These three deep wounds to the upper back
应该是致命伤 should have been fatal.
剩下的只是为了好玩吗 And the rest were just for fun?
他喜欢工作 很难让他走出办公室 Man likes work, hard to get him out of the office.
凶手真的有点不能自拔 This guy really got into it.
肋骨受伤的地方 Broken tip of the blade was protruding
有刀片的尖端突出 from where it hit his rib.
看起来凶器是剔骨刀 Looks like a boning knife was the weapon of choice.
他很可能用过这个砍了几次 You know, he might have took a few swings with this.
我想你查一下所有碎片看看有没有指纹 I want you to check all the shards for prints,
血液 随便什么 blood, whatever.
很明显这个人很注重安全 It's obvious the man was security conscious.
进来的人肯定是被放进来的 Whoever got in was let in.
很可能是他认识的人 Probably someone he knew.
菜刀 听起来挺居家 Kitchen knife. Sounds domestic.
Iliescu太太 Mrs. Iliescu,
我们想问你一些问题 we'd like to ask you some questions.
关于Alex Iliescu的死的 It's about Alex lliescu's death.
你们承诺了我们公正 结果却释放了他 You promised us justice. You released him.
Karen阿姨 Aunt Karen.
Leon 打给律师 他在等着 Leon, call the lawyer. He's expecting it.
算了吧 Ben Come on, Ben,
这件事我们应该分担一部分责任 let's share a little responsibility here.
责任 Jonathan Responsibility, Jonathan?
我没有刺任何人 I didn't stab anyone.
你的生命没有受到 Your life wasn't in danger
你释放的那个冷血杀手的威胁 from a stone-cold killer that you released.
他在他的公寓被杀的 He was killed in his apartment,
不是闯入了她的房子 not breaking into her house.
德克萨斯 Ben 着火的床 Texas, Ben. The Burning Bed.
The Burning Bed 非虚构小说及同名电影 讲述遭受13年家庭暴力的Mickey Hughes放火 烧死自己丈夫后因为暂时精神错乱被判无罪的故事
法律规定 The law has held that
自卫是可以先发制人的 self-defense can be pre-emptive.
危险不一定必须是迫近的 The danger doesn't have to be imminent.
对于一个受丈夫虐待心灵受创而杀了他的妻子而言 For a battered wife killing an abusive husband.
Alex Iliescu从来没有对她动过手 Alex lliescu never laid a hand on her.
他让她成了寡妇 He made her a widow.
他们还会听到这个女人 They will also hear how this woman
如何恳求这位检察官予以保护 pleaded with this prosecutor for protection.
Iliescu太太 如果你这么害怕 Mrs. Iliescu, if you were so afraid,
为什么你不找我们 why didn't you call us?
你们放走了他 You let him go.
我怎么相信你们会帮助我们呢 Why should I believe you would have helped us?
如果你那时候那么想要帮助她 If you were so anxious to help her then,
那就现在帮助她 help her now.
二级非预谋杀人罪 缓刑 Man two with a suspended sentence.
二级非预谋杀人罪 她服最长刑期 Man two, she serves the maximum.
她一天也不会服 Ben She'll never serve a day, Ben.
法庭见 I'll see you in court.
除非他们重写法律条文 Unless they rewrite the statute,
否则迫在眉睫的危险才能自卫 self-defense requires imminent danger.
陪审团按衡平法裁决 不是法律条文 Juries deal in equities, not statutes.
这个人杀了数以千计的人 This guy killed thousands.
Shapiro会让陪审团认为 Shapiro will talk the jury into thinking
杀他是为民除害 the killing was a public service.
我们有一个问题 Karen Iliescu的供词 We have a problem. Karen lliescu's confession
和证据不符 doesn't match the evidence.
什么证据 What evidence?
Alex用来自卫的瓶子上的血 The blood on the bottle Alex used to defend himself
与他和Karen的都不匹配 doesn't match his or Karers.
所以她供认了一项她没有犯的罪 So she confessed to a crime she didn't commit.
她在保护什么人 She's protecting someone.
还有谁呢 那孩子 Who's left? The boy.
打给Briscoe和Logan Call Briscoe and Logan.
地区检察官会议室 4月6日 星期二
我们把Leon从罗马尼亚带回来的时候 When we brought Leon back from Romania,
他和我们住一起 像我们儿子一样 he lived with us like a son.
我希望他能有一个正常的生活 I wanted him to have a normal life.
他应得的 He deserved it.
他谋杀了他的父亲 Iliescu太太 He murdered his father, Mrs. Iliescu.
说到正常生活 他已经有一个坏的开始了 In terms of a normal life, he's off to a bad start.
考虑到他父亲的情况 Take into account what his father was,
他对他父亲的恐惧 the fear his father inspired in him.
我打算以精神缺陷 I'm going to plead Leon not guilty
为Leon做无罪辩护 by reason of mental defect.
精神失常 算了吧 Jonathan Insanity? Come on, Jonathan.
基于什么 Based on what?
他的家庭 特别是Leon His family, specifically Leon.
他被骇人的过去 He's been haunted,
困扰 重创 severely damaged by a very terrifying past.
在罗马尼亚的时候 Back to Romania.
你没有经历过 You were not there.
你没有看过我所看到的 You haven't seen what I've seen.
陪审团会看到他看到的 And what he saw, the jury will see.
他们也会知道Leon所做的 And they'll know that Leon did
是罗马尼亚的生活导致他做的 what his life in Romania conditioned him to do.
是文化精神失常 It's cultural insanity.
没有法官会信那个 No judge is gonna buy that.
听着 你要是这么确定 就去申请排除动议 Well, look, you're so sure, make a motion to preclude.
你觉得他用这个文化精神失常 You think he actually has a chance
的辩护能有机会吗 with this cultural insanity defense?
我觉得他有创造东西的天赋 I think he has a knack for creating things.
他最喜欢 There's nothing he likes better
创造新法律了 than making new law.
但是推到极端 But taken to the extreme,
这个辩护意味着 this defense would mean
没人对任何事负责了 that nobody's responsible for anything.
是 那正是法律的趋向 Yeah, and that's exactly where the law's heading.
出了事 就要有人负责 Something wrong, someone to sue.
那是民法 不是刑法 That's civil law, not criminal.
你觉得有人知道或者在意其中的差别吗 You think anyone knows the difference or cares?
Shapiro提出这个辩护 Shapiro's raising the defense.
意味着我们要严肃对待 Translation, we take it seriously.
那Liz呢 她和那个男孩聊过了吗 Now, what about Liz? She talked to the boy?
还没有 今天下午 No. This afternoon.
如果她不那么确定就做辩诉协议吧 Well, if she has any doubts, cut a deal.
我记得我母亲 I remember my mother.
带我去政府办公楼 She take me to the State Building.
她要去看医生 She, uh, has to see the physician,
就把我留给了我父亲 so she, uh, leave me with my father.
他为政府工作 He worked for the State.
你那时候多大 Leon How old were you, Leon?
大概10岁11岁 Um, maybe 11, 10.
警官把我带到我父亲那 The sergeant, he, uh, take me to my father.
他在监狱中间的四方院里 He was in the quadrangle outside the cell block.
犯人们的脚踝 The prisoners, they were
被锁链锁在一起 chained together at the ankles
他们不得不看着 and they had to watch,
不然警卫就打他们 or the guards would beat them.
他们不得不看什么 What did they have to watch?
另一个囚犯在地上 Another prisoner on the ground.
他… He, uh...
警卫站在他的手臂上 The guards stand on his arms
所以他不能动 so he cannot move.
他的双脚被绑在一个标杆上 His feet are tied to a post.
一个大个子 A big man,
正在用棍子打 he is beating on the soles
那个囚犯的脚底 of the prisoner's feet with a club.
那个大个子转过身 The big man turn around.
正是我的父亲 It was my father.
你对此有什么感觉 How did you feel about that?
我很骄傲 I was proud.
对他的暴行骄傲 Proud of his brutality?
我们受人尊敬 We got respect.
我们生活得很好都是因为我父亲的工作 We live well because of what my father did.
每次Ceausescu做演讲 Every time Ceausescu give an address,
我父亲 there is my father,
都站在他右手边的第四个 the fourth man on his right.
他说等我长大了 那就是我 He said when I am grown, that would be me.
他成长的环境里 暴力和残忍 He was raised with violence and brutality
是无法改变的现实 as a fact of life.
这对他一定有影响 It had to have an effect.
我小时候还参加过 I was exactly invited to the Queers tea
怪人的聚会呢 when I was a kid.
我没有杀人 我也不觉得我精神有问题 I didn't kill anybody, and I don't think I'm insane.
但是象征意义上 But figuratively,
Leon被邀请去过宫廷舞会 Leon was invited to the palace ball.
他见过他父亲的残忍 He saw his father's cruelty,
也见过他因此受到奖赏 and he also saw him get rewarded for it.
他成为了他的文化规定的样子 He became what his culture prescribed.
他不能拒绝他父亲的生活 He couldn't reject his father's life.
所以Shapiro的理论是成立的 So Shapiro's theory is valid?
理论上是 In theory, yes.
但是让我困惑的不是Leon说的话 What bothers me is not so much what Leon says,
而是他说话的方式 but the way in which he says it.
他在叙述他幼年时候 He's reciting a litany of horrors
所经历的冗长的可怕的故事 he experienced as a youth,
但是却有一种奇怪的热情 but there's a weird enthusiasm
好像他所讲述的事情 as if he's describing the actualization
是幻想出来的 of some fantasy.
他有精神缺陷吗 Does he have a mental defect?
我会作证说 I'd be able to testify that
尽管他小时候可能受到过心理创伤 although he may have been traumatized as a youth,
但他杀死他父亲的时候 he knew exactly what he was doing
完全知道自己在做什么 when he killed his father.
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你们会听到一卷供词的录音 You will hear a taped confession
里面Leon Iliescu描述了 in which Leon lliescu describes
他如何用刀重复刺进他父亲后背的 plunging a knife repeatedly into his father's back.
他没有说他所做的是正当的 And he doesn't say that his act is justified.
他所说的是 What he does say
因为他小时候处在一个暴力的极权国家 is that because of his youth in a violent police state
他不能对他所做的事情 he cannot be held legally responsible
负法律责任 for his acts.
法律上讲他精神失常 He is legally insane.
简要来讲 Leon说的是 In short, Leon is saying,
"我没有罪 社会逼我犯罪" "I'm not guilty. Society made me do it."
我只请求你们 I only ask that
面对冗长的精神分析 when you are confronted with this mountain
这座大山的时候 of psychoanalytic verbiage
记住 这起犯罪的真正受害者 that you keep in mind the real victim of this crime
在自己公寓的地板上 found on the floor of his own apartment
后背里都是一把剔骨刀 with the blade of a boning knife
刀刃的碎片 broken in his back,
被自己的亲生儿子所杀 murdered by his own son.
那时候 你们才能判决 Only then can you determine
究竟Leon是社会的受害者 whether Leon is the victim of society
还是社会是Leon的受害者 or society is the victim of Leon.
我的父亲 上帝保佑他 My father, God bless him,
在离这里不远的教堂街有一个小裁缝店 had a little tailor shop right down here on Church St.
我5岁的时候 When I was 5 years old,
他让我坐在柜台后面 he made me sit behind a counter
和客人聊天 and talk to the customers.
我10岁的时候 他教我用熨斗 When I was 10, he taught me to use the press.
12岁的时候是缝纫机 At 12, the sewing machine.
对他来说 世界上最美妙的事就是 To him, there would be nothing greater in this world
挂上"Shapiro和儿子"的招牌 than to hang a sign, "Shapiro and Son."
你们会看到 Leon Iliescu的情况是一样的 You will see that it was the same for Leon lliescu.
只是他父亲让他看的是公开处决 Only his father made him watch public executions.
他教他如何使用手枪和皮鞭 He taught him how to use a pistol and a whip.
对Leon来说唯一的成功之路 The only path to success for Leon
就是国家批准的暴行 was State-sanctioned brutality.
然后突然他被带到这个国家 Then suddenly, he was brought to this country.
他的叔叔和婶婶试着拯救 His aunt and uncle tried to salvage
他内心的人性 the human being in him.
他们告诉他 They taught him that
他父亲的生活方式是错的 his father's way of life was wrong.
然后他的叔叔被他的父亲谋杀了 But then his uncle was murdered by his father,
州法院放过了他 and the State said it was okay.
Leon的内心改变了 And something inside of Leon went snap.
他和我们住了七年 He lived with us the last seven years.
描述一下任何让你认为 Please describe anything in Leors behavior
Leon精神有问题的行为 that would lead you to believe that he had a mental problem.
他睡得不好 He did not sleep well.
就这个 And that's all?
我不想谈Leon I don't want to talk about Leon.
我不想在这儿 I don't want to be here!
他哪个老师 Did any of his teachers...
抱怨过他的行为吗 Did they complain about his behavior?
他在学校有麻烦 He had trouble in school.
但我帮了他 But I helped him.
Iliescu夫人 这不是我的问题的答案 Mrs. Iliescu, that is not an answer to my question.
他的老师抱怨过他的行为吗 Did his teachers complain about his behavior?
回答这个问题 Answer the question.
没有 No.
他曾在家的周围 And did he ever get into any fights
打架吗 in the neighborhood?
没有 No.
他有任何行为 Was there anything in his behavior
让你认为 that would lead you to believe
他需要精神治疗了吗 that he needed psychiatric treatment?
没有 No.
谢谢 Thank you.
和你们住的7年中 At what point in the seven years
Leon that he lived with you
需要你帮他的功课 did Leon begin to need help with his schoolwork?
他是个好学生 He was a good student
直到他父亲从罗马尼亚赶来 until his father came over from Romania.
是那个时候起 Was that about the time
他开始睡不好吗 he started having trouble sleeping?
是的 他开始做恶梦 Yes. He had nightmares.
他朋友打电话来 His friends would call,
他也不接 and he would not speak to them.
Iliescu夫人 你没有向心理医生 Mrs. Iliescu, you never consulted
咨询过Leon的情况吗 a psychiatrist about Leors condition.
你咨询过任何人吗 Did you consult anyone?
问过 我和神父Popescu谈过 Yes, I spoke to Father Popescu.
我求Leon I begged Leon
和我一起去教堂 但他拒绝了 to come with me to church, but he refused.
他说他被诅咒了 He said he was cursed.
上帝不要他 God didn't want him.
我应该 I would have done...
为他做点事的 anything for him.
他像个儿子一样和我们生活 He lived with us like our own son.
但当Alex来了 我感到他 But when Alex came, I just felt him
滑走了 to... to slip away.
他总是谈到 He speaks of
他父亲那边的事 being almost constantly at his father's side,
看到刑讯 of witnessing interrogations
囚犯们被残酷拷打 in which prisoners were severely beaten.
他看到死刑 He saw executions.
他也看到他父亲因他的行为受到奖励 He also saw his father rewarded for his actions.
不自觉的 他把残酷 Unconsciously, he equated cruelty
和成功 成就 权利等同起来 with success, achievement, and power.
以你的专家意见 那些他生动描述的 And in your expert opinion, were these acts of violence,
暴力行为 which he described vividly,
是他恶劣成长环境的结果吗 were they the result of his upbringing?
他的童年也许是创伤性的 His childhood probably was traumatic,
但那并不会让他去杀了他父亲 but it did not compel him to kill his father.
被告人有任何精神缺陷吗 And does the defendant suffer from any mental defect?
没有 No.
所以你认为 从法律上讲他精神并无问题 So in your opinion he is not legally insane?
不 他没有 No, he's not.
谢谢 Thank you.
Olivet医生 Dr. Olivet.
你认为心理学是精确科学吗 Would you, uh, consider psychology an exact science?
心理学评估对某些参数 Psychological evaluation offers a certain accuracy
能提供一定准确度 是科学 within certain parameters, yes.
你描述Leon童年 You described the effect of Leo's youth
为创伤的 对吧 as traumatic, didn't you?
我说它可能是创伤性的 I said it was probably traumatic.
可能 Probably.
也就是说 程度可深可浅 In other words, it could be as little or as much
并由你们来决定 as anyone in your profession cares to make it.
不 我们不是在讨论黑魔法 Shapiro先生 No. We're not talking about black magic, Mr. Shapiro.
评估过程 The evaluation process
是有特定的标准的 is based on very specific criteria.
我知道了 I see.
在你职业生涯中 评估了多少罗马尼亚人 How many Romanians have you evaluated in your career?
没有过 None.
评估了多少谋杀犯的儿子 How many sons of mass murderers?
反对 法官大人 Objection, Your Honor.
我们已经确定了 We have already established
Olivet医生作为专家是可靠的 Dr. Olivet's credentials as an expert.
我没有质疑她的专业性 I am not challenging her expertise.
我在质疑她的观点的基础 I am questioning the basis for her opinion.
我允许了 回答问题吧 I'll allow it. Answer the question.
没有 None.
那告诉我们 医生 So tell us, Doctor,
在你承认你没有经验的情况下 what in your past qualifies you to form an opinion
你过去的什么经历让你认为 about the effect of these horrors
你可以对这些恐怖经历的影响发表观点 when you admittedly have no experience?
反对 Objection.
收回 Withdrawn.
这可不容易 Adam 但我觉得Liz It was't easy, Adam, but I thought Liz
尽力争取了 held her ground as best she could.
是啊 但问题是审判团喜欢 Yeah. The problem is juries go with the expert
听头衔长的专家的意见 with the most letters after his name.
Shapiro要把Melvin Diener医生 And Shapiro's putting Dr. Melvin Diener
推上证人席 on the stand.
他的简历像斯金纳一样长 A curriculum vitae like B.F. Skinner.
那个人在500页的书里 The man coined the term "Cultural insanity"
创造了"文化疯狂"这个术语 in his 500-page treatise on the subject.
Jonathan Shapiro老奸巨猾 And Jonathan Shapiro's slick enough
通过一道旋转门打败了你 to beat you through a revolving door.
你真觉得审判团会买那个帐 You actually think a jury'll buy that?
如果真这样 我们得用三倍的经费 Well, if it does, we'll have to triple the budget
去起诉所有文化疯狂的被告人 to prosecute all the culturally-insane defendants.
但如果我现在和那男孩交易 But if I cut a deal with the boy now,
那道洪水之门还是被打开了 it'll open the same floodgates.
那男孩说他是暴力文化的产物 The boy says he's a product of a screwed-up culture.
我们什么时候 Since when do we take
把已知重罪犯的陈述当成歌颂了 the statement of a known felon as gospel?
找到目击证人反驳他的唯一办法是 The only way to get a witness to discredit him
从罗马尼亚运过来一个人 is to fly one over from Romania.
我很怀疑州政府会不会批准 I doubt the State will spring for that.
可能只需要花出租车的钱 It may cost us only cab fare.
Tommy Zanescu还没有 Tommy Zanescu hasn't been transferred
被转移出Rikers监狱 out of Rikers yet.
在我们国家 In my country,
一条香烟能买一件羊毛衫 a carton of cigarettes would get you a wool sweater.
问题是 我不抽烟 The problem is, I don't smoke,
我也不冷 and I'm not cold.
我们愿意减少你的刑期 We are willing to reduce the sentence.
减多少 How much?
根据你告诉我们的来说 That depends on what you tell us.
你们想听什么 What do you want to hear?
好好享受监狱里的未来15年吧 先生 Enjoy the next 15 years in jail, sir.
等等 我会告诉你们我知道的 Hold it. I'll tell you what I know.
是的 我在布加勒斯特认识Alex Yeah, I knew Alex back in Bucharest.
我和他在特务局工作 I worked with him in Securitate.
按你们的说法 我就是他的右手 I was what you people call his right-hand man.
你看到他在Leon身边 Then you saw him around Leon?
几乎没 Ale6用不着Leon Hardly ever. Alex had no use for Leon.
他叫他老鼠 He called him a mouse.
当他父亲带他到监狱时 How did Leon react
Leon是什么反应 when his father brought him to the prison?
监狱 那男孩这样告诉你们的 The prison? Is that what the boy told you?
Alex不会带他去任何地方 Alex wouldn't bring him anywhere.
当他5岁时 When he was 5 years old,
他送他到那里和佣人生活 he sent him to the country to live with servants.
Leon求他来不加莱斯特和他住 When Leon asked him to come live with him in Bucharest,
Alex把他送到了纽约的兄弟家 Alex shipped him off to New York to his brother.
Leon恨他的父亲吗 So Leon always hated his father?
不 他又懦弱 又愚蠢 又绝望 No. He was weak and stupid and desperate.
他会做任何事来取悦Alex He'd do anything to please Alex.
他能做什么 What could he do?
Alex不想知道他的事 Alex didn't want to know him.
但Leon还在尝试 But Leon still tried.
是他告诉我们 You know, it was him who told us that Nicolas
Nicolas要去警察局告密 was going to turn Alex in to the police.
Alex笑着说 Alex laughed and said,
"看吧 你甚至像个老鼠一样出卖别人" "See? You even squeal like a mouse."
通过告诉Alex Nick要告密信用卡诈骗的事 By telling Alex that Nick was onto the credit card scam,
他试图融进他父亲的生活 he was trying to buy his way into his father's life.
他知道Alex会阻止他叔叔 He knew Alex would do something to stop his uncle.
这意味着他叔叔的死对他不是创伤性的 Which means the death of his uncle was't traumatic.
是预料之中的 It was expected.
整个精神失常辩护是个噱头 This whole insanity defense is a hoax.
打电话给Shapiro 开个会 So call Shapiro and set up a meeting.
Zanescu在撒谎 Zanescu is lying.
他在撒谎 He's lying.
Leon 你是在在罗马尼亚时 Um, Leon, did you know Tommy Zanescu
认识的Tommy Zanescu吗 when you were both in Romania?
他说在特务局他是 He says he was your father's right-hand man
你父亲的右手 in the Securitate.
他只是一个司机 He was just a chauffeur.
我父亲有很多司机 别的司机会告诉你 My father had many chauffeurs. Others who could tell you
我父亲想要我跟他一起干 he wanted me to be with him,
没有人会像Tommy Zanescu and none of them would betray me
背叛我 或者我父亲 or my father like this Tommy Zanescu.
大家不敢背叛你父亲吧 Your father was not an easy man to betray, was he?
是的 That's right.
但你叔叔呢 But your uncle?
你觉得背叛他容易吧 You found it easy to betray him, didn't you?
你找了你父亲 告诉他 You went to your father, and you told him
你叔叔要揭发他 that your uncle was going to turn him in.
不 Leon 说你没有做这事 No. Leon, tell them you didn't.
你知道 And you knew
你父亲会杀了背叛者 对吧 that your father killed betrayers, didn't you?
我不知道他会杀了Nickie叔叔 I didn't know he would kill Uncle Nickie.
Leon 你怎么能这样 You knew, Leon. How could you?
他是我父亲 He was my father!
但你爱Nickie But you loved Nickie!
是的 我爱他 Yes. I loved him.
如果你告诉我们这事 If you had come to us,
你叔叔现在还活着 your uncle would be alive today.
Nickie叔叔死后 After Uncle Nickie died,
我父亲 my father...
他揽着我的肩 he put his arm on my shoulder.
像对儿子那样和我说话 He talked to me like a son.
直到指控被撤销了 Until the charges were dismissed against him.
我去了他的公寓 I went to his apartment.
他在喝酒庆祝 He was drinking, celebrating. He...
我们谈了我搬去和他住 We talked about me moving in with him.
但他不想和你住吧 But he didn't want you, did he?
他爱我 He loved me.
他不爱你 他利用你 He didn't love you, he used you.
你什么都不知道 You don't know anything.
我知道他叫你老鼠 I know he called you mouse.
是因为你是个懦夫吗 Is that because you're a coward?
我不怕他 I was’t afraid of him.
他那时 He was
在吃香肠 eating sausage like
像只猪 a pig.
那里有把刀 There was a knife.
我拿了起来 I pick it up.
他看着我 He just look at me
大笑 and laugh.
他叫我告密者 He call me a snitch
然后他转过去了 and then he turn away,
好像我什么都不是 like I'm nothing!
我一直戳他 But I just keep stabbing
直到他再也 until he doesn't move
不动了 anymore.
我不是胆小鬼 I'm not a coward.
极端情绪混乱 Ben Extreme emotional disturbance, Ben.
一级谋杀 Man one.
Leon费了很大力气 Leon went a long way
试着赢得父亲的爱 trying to win his father's love.
听起来 这爱不值得去赢得 From the sound of it, it was't won'th winning.
他们说当父亲去世后 They say a boy doesn't become a man
男孩才能变成男人 until his father passes away.
Leon一下子就成为了男人 Leon took care of it in one fell swoop.