本剧根据本·麦金泰尔的纪实文学作品《敌友难辨》拍摄
本剧是艺术创作作品出于剧情需要修改人物姓名 并创作部分人物和场景
如果我必须在出卖国家和朋友之间做出选择 我希望我有勇气出卖国家 爱德华·摩根·福斯特 1938年
1963年1月8日 January the 8th, 1963.
肯辛顿斯宾塞广场19号 Official statement of Mrs Flora Solomon
弗洛拉·所罗门太太的正式证词 of 19 Spencer Square, Kensington.
在开始之前... Before I-I begin, erm...
我想澄清一下 我... ..I'd like to make it clear, I...
不是我去找军情五处 I didn't go to MI5.
而是你们来找我的 You came to me.
所有这些都源自一个私人的对话... All because of a private conversation...
至少让我相信是个私人的... ..or at least one that I was lead to believe was private...
与朋友的对话 with a friend.
虽说听着好像不大可能 And, as unlikely as it may sound,
但我认识金·菲尔比已经很久了 I have known Kim Philby for a very long time...
而... ..and, erm...
我就是没办法...把明摆着的事 ..I simply didn't put... two and two to...
我还是不太能相信... I still can't quite believe that...
我非常遗憾自己花了这么多年 I very much regret that it has taken me all these years
才意识到他到底是什么人 to realise who he really is...
以及他所做的可鄙可恨的那些事 ..and the despicable, hateful things he's done.
对不起 尼克 I'm sorry, Nick.
-我知道你一直视金为亲密的... -我没事 - I know you always considered Kim a close... - I'm fine.
没事 Fine.
你该知道所罗门太太给军情五处的证词 You should know, Mrs Solomon's statement to MI5
是最后一块拼图 is the final piece of the puzzle
可以证实戈利岑去年在赫尔辛基投诚时 that confirms everything that Golitsyn told us
对我们所说的一切 when he defected in Helsinki last year.
我看过他的交待文件 I read his debrief file.
他只提过一名身份不明的苏联间谍 He only ever mentioned an unidentified Soviet agent.
我有个小组正在待命 准备一早就去贝鲁特 I have a team standing by to go to Beirut first thing.
可你现在告诉我的则是 实际上 But what you're now telling me is that, in fact,
戈利岑专门指认金是叛徒 Golitsyn specifically identified Kim as the traitor?
军情五处的小组 那肯定搞不定 A team from MI5? That'll never fucking work.
金必须由秘密情报处对付 而不是军情五处 Kim has to be handled by SIS, not MI5.
-那不是发疯吗 -而我说秘密情报处... - That would be madness. - And by "SIS"...
-就是指我自己 -彻头彻尾地发疯 - I mean me. - Utter bloody madness.
我不这么看 罗杰爵士 'I disagree, Sir Roger.'
目前来说 菲尔比必须 Philby must, for the time being,
被视为有潜力的线人 并加以培养 be viewed and treated as a potential asset.
他必须要由秘密情报处的人小心负责 He must be handled with care by an SIS man
为了获取外国情报 for foreign intelligence purposes,
而不是为量刑定罪而由军情五处逮捕 not arrested by MI5 for criminal prosecution.
请原谅 但...10年前 Forgive me, but... ten years ago,
剑桥五杰 苏联从第二次世界大战开始 在英国的五名双重间谍 已知的四人除上述三人外还有安东尼·布朗特
当军情五处怀疑菲尔比 when MI5 suspected Philby
协助了伯吉斯和麦克莱恩逃亡莫斯科时 of helping Burgess and Maclean escape to Moscow,
我记得你... you, as I recall...
当时是他最坚定的盟友 ..were his staunchest ally.
因此 我再说一遍... So, I'll say it again -
派你去贝鲁特会是个天大的错误 sending you to Beirut would be a colossal mistake.
你好 金 Hello, Kim.
我正希望能是你 I rather thought it would be you.
敌 友 难 辨
第一章 打拍子
八天后 1963年2月1日
1963年1月26日 8点42分
绝密 仅限军情五处内部 局长 十万火急
怀疑金·菲尔比叛逃去了苏联
在贝鲁特已知与菲尔比 最后联系的人是尼古拉斯·艾利奥特(秘密情报处) 局长批准立即展开调查
你肯定希望自己还在贝鲁特 Bet you wish you were still in Beirut.
去左舷 还有20分钟就到码头了[俄语] E! Zakhodim v port. Dvadtsat' minut do stykovki.
麻烦讲英语 In English, please.
在苏联 说俄语 Russia, huh? Russia!
我们能把人送上...太空 但是 We can send a man... into space, but...
我建议你别把门关得那么严 I wouldn't shut that all the way again if I were you.
好吧 还有别的房间能给我用吗... Oh, right. Well, is there another room I can use...?
是潮气 It's the damp.
把木头给涨大了 Expands the wood, see.
恐怕就这一间了 This is all there is, I'm afraid.
别忘了 八点开幕 Don't forget, curtain's at eight.
什么剧 'What theatre?'
告诉你就透露了 没有惊喜了 'That'd be telling. Spoil the surprise.
不过你还挺滑头 'Nice try, though.'
-去吧 -我们会挺过去的 - Go. - 'We'll get through this.
我相信你 'I believe in you.'
吻我 Kiss me.
-别说我们输了 -输什么了 - Don't tell me - we lost. - What?
板球啊 蒂姆 板球 The cricket, Tim, the cricket.
其实打平了 Actually, it was a draw.
英格兰四局均分223分 England were 223 for four.
多亏巴林顿有134分才没出局 Thanks to Barrington, who was 134, not out.
用力推... Give it a good, hard...
总是忘记这一点 按说我早该知道了 Always forget about that. You think I'd know by now.
艾利奥特先生 Mr Elliott.
如果我记得没错 It's been like that as long as I can remember.
你一定是托马斯太太 You must be Mrs Thomas...
-你好 -隶属于著名军情五处 - How do you do? - ...of MI5 fame.
也没有 Hardly.
怎么了 What?
-我们还需要把椅子 -请留步 - We need another chair. - Hello?
-你好 -你好 - How do you do? - Hello.
我是蒂姆·米尔恩 Tim Milne.
上面指示我单独盘问艾利奥特先生 My instructions are to debrief Mr Elliott alone.
你必须明白 托马斯太太 Well, what you need to understand, Mrs Thomas,
艾利奥特先生是秘密情报处最受尊敬的官员 is that Mr Elliott is one of SIS's most respected officers,
C让我来旁听 and C has asked me to sit in
确保一切... and make sure that everything is, er...
-你懂的... -妥当 - ...you know... - Tickety-boo.
-我可以说一句吗 -但讲无妨 - May I speak freely? - In this building.
上面给我的命令是单独盘问艾利奥特先生 My orders are to debrief Mr Elliott alone
秘密情报处不得参与或从旁协助 with no SIS involvement or assistance,
但如果你需要进一步解释 but should you need clarification,
请拨打 I'm to ask you to...
这个号码 ...call this number.
在你离开前 你们中有谁 Before you go, is there someone here...
可以修一下那扇门吗 ...who might be able to do something about that door?
你去吧 There's a good fella.
艾利奥特先生 首先我想说我很抱歉 Mr Elliott, I'd like to begin by saying how sorry I am.
我知道这对你和情报局的其他人来说很痛苦 I realise how painful this must be for you and everyone else here
你们把菲尔比先生当做朋友... at the Intelligence Service who counted Mr Philby as a friend...
和可信任的同事... ...and trusted colleague...
已有很长时间了 ...for such an awfully long time.
你是有点诺森伯兰口音吗 Is that Northumberland I hear?
你和菲尔比先生是25年的朋友吗 You and Mr Philby were friends for, what, 25 years?
23年 23.
请你解释一下 Could you please explain to me
他是如何从贝鲁特逃脱的 how he was able to escape from Beirut?
我猜他是坐船走的 Smart money's on a boat.
不了 谢谢 No, thank you.
是纽卡斯尔... Newcastle...
口音吗 ...the accent?
艾利奥特先生 Mr Elliott...
我完全理解你可能需要一至两分钟 ...I completely understand why you might need a moment or two
才能打开话匣子 相信我 我理解 to break the ice - believe me, I do.
你觉得现在可以说了吗 Would you mind if we now consider it broken?
"逃脱"这个词意味着 The word "escape"... would suggest
内政大臣 亨利·布鲁克
菲尔比当时正被关押 而他没有 that Philby was in some sort of custody, which he was not.
但我明白你为什么要这么问 But I do understand the drive of your question,
我的回答是 and the answer is this
我当时不认为他会逃跑 I simply didn't think he'd run.
我给他提供了完全的豁免权和保密权 I was offering him complete immunity and secrecy,
和妻儿在乡下享受一段 with a nice little retirement in the country
美好的退休时光 with his wife and children,
而他要彻底交代曾为克格勃所做的一切 for a full confession of everything he ever did for the KGB.
我从未想过他会选择苏联 而不是我说的那些 I didn't for a moment think he'd choose Russia over that.
我是杜伦口音 Durham. My accent.
艾利奥特先生 你知道我们有... Mr Elliott, you are aware that we have all the...
你和菲尔比在那间公寓里的全部34小时录音吗 ...34 hours of recordings of you and Philby in that flat?
你好 金 'Hello, Kim.'
我正希望能是你 'I rather thought it would be you.'
他说"我正希望能是你"是什么意思 What did he mean by that, "I rather thought it would be you"?
-我不知道 -让你猜呢 - I don't know. - If you were to guess?
那就要按他的游戏来玩了 Well, that would be playing his game,
-这个节骨眼上我最好别这么做 -游戏 - and I'd sooner not do that at this juncture. - Game?
请进 'Come on in.'
我给你倒杯茶吧 Can I offer you some tea?
你看起来挺憔悴 身体还好吗 You look a little peaky. How's your health?
还撑得住 It's... perfectly tolerable,
尽管最近感染了几次流感 得了支气管炎 despite recent bouts of flu AND bronchitis.
-太糟糕了 -是啊 都不让我好过 - Nasty. - Yes, they were both against me.
它们又不知道 Little did they know.
我必须说 我以为"茶" I must say, I'd rather hoped "tea"
指的是某种更提神的东西 was code for something a little stronger.
金 我没时间拖延了 Kim, I don't have time to postpone this and...
我们彼此认识这么久 we've known each other forever, so...
你不介意的话 我就开门见山了 if you don't mind, I'll get right to the point.
糟糕 Bloody hell.
你相信吗 我把烟落在家里了 Would you believe it? I've left my pipe at home.
太好了 Good man.
我来告诉你 你的过去暴露了 I came to tell you that your past has caught up with you.
我们找到了关于你的其他信息 We found additional information about you
一切都有了头绪 that puts everything in place.
现在... And now...
连我都相信 绝对相信 even I'm convinced, absolutely convinced...
你之前一直在为苏联情报部门工作 that you worked for the Soviet intelligence service...
直到战争结束 right up until the end of the war.
录音开头几分钟内 Within the first few minutes of the tape,
你说话大声又清楚 you state loud and clear,
好像是为了录音 说给其他可能在听的人听 as if for the record and anybody else who might be listening,
你说他战争结束后就不再为苏联做间谍工作 that he stopped spying for the Soviets at the end of the war.
-是的 -是吗 - Yes. - Did he?
所以这是个谎言 So, that was a lie.
-细微之差 -细微之差 - A nuance... - A nuance.
为了保护我们和美国之间的关系 ..to protect the relationship with our American cousins
我猜他们一定在监听 who, I assumed, had to be listening...
-据我所知没有 -或者也会得到录音带 - Not as far as I know... - or would get hold of the tape.
再说一次 就我所知... Again, to my knowledge...
因为如果他们发现 Because if they ever discovered
他直到现在也一直 that he had been active for the KGB
在为克格勃服务 all the way up to now,
尤其是49年到51年他在华盛顿任职期间 especially during his stint in Washington from '49 to '51...
-他们会想要血债血偿 -不止他的血 - They'd be out for blood. - Not just HIS blood.
那我这么说对不对 So, am I right in saying
你一开始就让他知道 that you were letting him know from the beginning
你愿意保护他不受美国人伤害 you were willing to protect him from the Americans?
我更愿意把它看作是保护情报部门 I'd... rather like to think of it as protecting the service...
保卫国家 And the country.
同时 与此同时... Whilst, at the same time...
想尽办法让他说出真相 trying to offer him every incentive to tell the truth.
顺便问一下 他为什么没有被拘留 By the way, why wasn't he in some sort of custody?
我们不是那样 Well, that's not how we...
我只是想唤起他善良的本性 I was trying to appeal to his better nature.
-作为英国人 -作为丈夫 - As an Englishman. - And husband.
还有父亲 And father.
你跟他最先是怎么认识的 How did you and he first meet?
不知道这和贝鲁特发生的事有什么关系 Not sure what that has to do with what happened in Beirut.
贝鲁特发生的事 Wh-what happened in Beirut...
是这个国家有史以来最危险的渗透特工 is that the most dangerous Soviet penetration agent
在你的眼皮底下逃走了 this country's ever known legged it on your watch.
很可能去了苏联 他们在几个月前 Odds are to the Soviet Union, who, just a few months ago,
从古巴向美国发射了导弹 aimed missiles at America from Cuba.
所以我们 你和我 So we - you and I -
要彻查你和菲尔比友谊中的 are gonna look into every single nook and cranny
每一处细节 of yours and Philby's friendship.
你好 菲尔比同志 How do you do, Comrade Philby?
或者我应该叫你 斯坦利特工 Or I should say... Agent Stanley?
我是谢尔盖 I'm Sergei.
我可以吗 May I...?
-首先我想道歉 -没必要 - I'd like to begin with an apology. - Is not necessary.
即便如此... Even so...
你很抱歉你在贝鲁特被迫出手 You are sorry that your hand was forced in Beirut
你只能逃到苏联 and that you had to escape to Soviet Union.
事实上 我想要道歉的是 Actually, what I'd like to apologise...
我说 不必道歉 I say... apology is not necessary.
首先 你是克格勃英雄 从34年起 First... you are KGB hero for work as penetration agent
你就渗入到英国和美国情报机构工作 into British and American intelligence since '34.
是33年 '33.
其次 我们让你行动太久了 Second... we keep you active too long.
老实说 我愿意永远做下去 In all honesty, I would've liked to have gone on forever.
永远不要离开英国 And to never leave England.
永远别再低估英国人 To never underestimating the English again.
我是1940年认识他的 I first met him in 1940.
在我的俱乐部 'At my club.
我儿时最亲密的伙伴刚刚被德国空军 'My closest childhood chum had just been shot down and killed
击落身亡 'by the Luftwaffe.'
关于金 我注意到的第一件事是 The first thing I noticed about Kim
他有这种吸引人的能力 was that he had this capacity to draw people in...
从他的举止就可以看出 and sort of appeared, just in how he carried himself,
他知道一些别人不知道的事情 to know things no-one else knew...
谢谢你 先生 Thank you, sir.
流露出一种浑然天成英国式自信 '..exuding what I can only describe as this very British confidence
诉说着一切都会好的 'that everything would be all right in the end.'
他们不在任何... They were not in any...
巧的是 那是闪电战的第一夜 That was, as it happens, the first night of the Blitz.
还好吗 老兄 All right there, old bean?
给你擦手 Your hand.
起来 老兄 Ups-a-daisy!
胳膊 腿 都在 都完好 Arms, legs, all present and correct.
你还能给我们调几杯粉红琴酒吗 You couldn't scare us up a couple of pink gins, could you?
-你是会员吗 先生 -什么 - Are you a member, sir? - What?
很抱歉先生 只有会员才能... I'm sorry, sir, only members are allowed to...
记在我的账上 山姆 Put it on my bill, Sam.
他对死里逃生似乎一点不慌张 He didn't seem at all rattled by the near miss.
我得承认 那时他的举动确实让人安心 Which I have to say at the time was really rather reassuring.
金·菲尔比 Kim Philby.
你认为菲尔比 Do you think Philby was playing you...
在你们初遇时就在耍你吗 from the very first moment that you met?
不 No.
我不知道 I don't know.
你在贝鲁特时没有问过他吗 You didn't ask him that in Beirut?
这会是我要问他的第一件事 That would've been the first thing I'd have asked him...
如果我没有先杀了他的话 ..if I hadn't killed him first.
所以 So...
为什么你在贝鲁特能轻易从秘密情报处逃脱 why it was so easy for you to escape SIS in Beirut?
我不会说是"轻易" I wouldn't exactly call it "easy".
菲尔比先生 Mr. Philby?
菲尔比先生 先生 Mr. Philby? Sir?
早餐 Breakfast.
来自一位朋友 From... a friend.
在莫斯科市中心收到来自贝鲁特的警告后 After I received the warning in Beirut from Moscow Centre,
我首先要看看是否有办法度过这次风暴 I first had to see if there was a way to weather the storm.
毕竟 十年前 After all, ten years ago,
我曾设法幸存了下来... I managed to survive a full-force hurricane...
在那场由唐纳德·麦克林 ..brought on by Donald Maclean
和盖·伯吉斯带来的狂风巨浪之中 and Guy fucking Burgess.
暴雨将至
我是菲尔比 Philby.
你好 彼得 Hello, Peter.
不不不 完全醒了 No, no, no, wide awake.
第二天 彼得·卢恩 The next morning, Peter Lunne,
我们的贝鲁特站长 our Beirut station chief,
打电话邀请那天下午 he rang to invite me to tea
去他秘书的公寓里喝茶 that afternoon at his secretary's flat,
我相信你知道 which, as I'm sure you know,
这是安全屋的代号之一 is code for one of the safe houses.
但当是来开门的是尼古拉斯·艾利奥特时 But when Nicholas Elliott opened the door,
我得承认 我被打了个措手不及 I'll admit, I was caught more than a little off-guard.
我正希望能是你 I rather thought it would be you.
快进来 Come on in.
他看起来想杀了我 He looked like he wanted to kill me.
然后四天之后 你就认罪了 And four days later, you confess?
我不会这么形容 不是 That's not exactly how I'd put it, no.
一份打印的签了字的认罪书 不是吗 A typed, signed confession, no?
四天里我否认了一切 After four days of denying everything...
但毫无进展 我感觉我的时间不多了 and getting nowhere, I felt my time was running out.
我得给他点什么 让他卸下防备 I needed to give him something to get him to drop his guard.
所以 没错 如你所知我签了字 So, yes, I signed, which you would know,
如果你看到那份文件 if you'd actually seen it,
你就会知道上面不过几页是些鸡毛蒜皮小事 what amounted to a few pages of chicken feed.
没别的了 No more.
为了给我自己一个机会 To give myself an opening,
一个能在这场噩梦变得更糟之前 a chance to make a move before this whole...
采取行动的机会 bloody nightmare got any worse.
他们为什么派艾利奥特去贝鲁特 Why did they send Elliott to Beirut?
以他的为人 是他说服他们这样做的 Knowing him, he talked them into it.
电话亭
你好 Hello?
请讲 Speak.
艾利奥特在墓地里见了一个苏联人 Elliott met a Russian in a cemetery.
他给了那个俄国人一份报纸 Handed him a newspaper.
现在我正看着那个苏联人坐在咖啡店里 Now I'm watching that same Russian sitting in a coffee shop.
盯住他 Well, stay on him.
别跟丢了 And do not fucking lose him.
你和尼古拉斯·艾利奥特做朋友多久了 How long were you and Nicholas Elliott friends?
从1940年开始 Since 1940.
当你们都在秘密情报处的时候吗 When you were both already in SIS?
我们不是同一个部门 Different sections.
我负责在伊比利亚半岛的行动 I ran operations in the Iberian Peninsular,
他负责荷兰 he covered Holland.
我们是20多年的朋友 Friends... for over 20 years.
不容易 Not easy.
我想 这需要注重细节 Requires a certain attention to detail, I suppose.
很难相信他没起过疑心 Hard to believe he never suspected.
你要知道... You must understand...
英国统治阶级内部的友谊 a friendship within the British ruling class...
建立在一种根深蒂固的信念上 it's built on an ingrained belief
他们相信战胜敌人 that victory over one's enemy
是注定的事 是天赐的 is preordained, God given.
细细想来真的很了不起 When you think about it, it's really remarkable,
需要多么感情用事 多么傲慢 the level of sentimentality and arrogance
才能如此一厢情愿的一叶障目 that it must take in order to be so wilfully blind
对自己人有二心的可能性视而不见 to the possibility that one of your own might see things differently.
只有托尼知道歌词 Tony's the only one who knows the words!
新年快乐 亲爱的 Happy new year, darling.
-新年快乐 -新年快乐 老兄 - Happy new year. - Happy new year, old socks.
-敬和平 终于 -敬我们 - To peace, at last. - To us.
敬熬过这一劫 And to getting away with it.
你为什么放他走 Why did you let him go?
我没有 他逃跑了 I didn't. He ran.
在晚上 At night.
他等到天黑就跑了 就这么轻松吗 He waited until after dark. That's all it took?
你不觉得事后想来 Do you not think that in hindsight,
也许该让军情五处去贝鲁特 而不是你吗 perhaps MI5 should've gone to Beirut, not you?
金给了我八页长的签名招供 Kim gave me an eight-page, signed confession,
他绝对不会对军情五处的任何人讲 that he never would've given anyone from MI5.
对 不好意思 你是说这个吗 Right, yeah. Sorry, you mean this?
是啊 Yeah.
对 Yeah.
这不就是你们秘密情报处所谓的 Isn't this what you SIS chaps call,
"边角料"吗 "chicken feed"?
还是说你还有别的事瞒着我 Or is there something you're not telling me?
当我了解到他的背叛之深时 When I... grasped the scope of his betrayal...
我意识到这些年来 我们的友谊导致了 ...I realised that our friendship had led, over the years, to...
数百人的死亡 ...the deaths of hundreds...
甚至可能数千人死在了苏联人手下 ...possibly thousands of people at the hands of the Soviets.
请你设想一下 Try to imagine for a moment, if you will...
那是种什么感觉 然后 ...how that might feel, and...
再给我一个故意放他走的好理由 ...give me one good reason why I'd deliberately let him go.
我可以列举好几个 I can give you several.
第一 你们是多年好友 Firstly, you were friends for years.
第二 他有妻子儿女 更别提秘密情报处 Second, there's his wife and children, not to mention SIS,
你肯定想保护他们免受公众丑闻侵扰 all of whom I'm sure you wanted to protect from a public scandal.
所以我要问 你们两个 So I have to ask if the two of you
是否在贝鲁特达成了某种交易 came to some sort of quid pro quo out there in Beirut?
抱歉 我需要 I'm sorry, I need...
这破门 Fucking thing!
没事 我可以搞定 It's all right. I can manage.
*有个宠物我爱抚摸* *There's one pet I like to pet*
*每晚我们各就各位* *And every evening, we get set*
*一有机会我就爱抚它* *I stroke it every chance I get*
*那就是我女朋友的小妹妹[猫咪]* *It's my girl's pussy...*
*很少玩耍从不打呼* *Seldom plays and never purrs*
*我爱它让我浮想联翩* *And I love the thoughts it stirs*
*但我不介意因为是她* *But I don't mind because it's hers...*
伊丽莎白·霍尔伯顿 Elizabeth Holberton,
我伊比利亚部门的一个姑娘 one of my gals on the Iberia desk.
她会说流利的法语 西语 德语 意大利语 She's fluent in French, Spanish, German, Italian...
一分钟能打110个词 110 words a minute.
别说你没色眯眯地盯着她看 Don't pretend you weren't ogling.
伊丽莎白 过来一下 Elizabeth? Over here!
*给我快感从不吝啬* *In giving thrills, never mean!*
-你干什么呢 -深呼吸 伙计 - What are you doing? - Deep breath, old bean.
她又不会不咬人 I'm pretty sure she doesn't bite.
伊丽莎白 请允许我向你介绍 Elizabeth, may I introduce to you
我最亲爱最抢手的朋友 my dearest and most eligible friend,
尼古拉斯·艾利奥特 Nicholas Elliott.
-尼克 -没事吧 老兄 - Nick! - All right, old chap?
你还好吗 尼克 Are you all right? Nick!
快叫医生 Somebody get a bloody doctor!
1951年 In 1951...
你帮助了伯吉斯同志和麦克莱恩同志 ...you helped Comrades Burgess and Maclean
从西方逃到苏联 escape from the West to the Soviet Union.
可以这么说 In a manner of speaking.
冒着巨大的个人风险 At great... personal risk.
当我发现电码译员盯上麦克莱恩时 When I found out the codebreakers were onto Maclean,
没有迹象表明伯吉斯的身份也暴露了 there was no indication Burgess was also blown.
麦克莱恩没有选择 Maclean had no choice.
他暴露了 他必须逃跑 毋庸置疑 He was blown. He had to run - no question about it.
伯吉斯就不一样了 他很安全 Burgess, on the other hand, he was safe.
但他害怕了 决定无论如何都要逃跑 But he panicked and decided to run anyway.
而因为他刚在我美国的家中做过客 And because he'd just been my house guest in America,
戒了几个月酒 drying out for a couple of months...
英国人怀疑你也是个叛徒吗 The British suspected you were also a... traitor?
你不喜欢这个称呼 You don't like that word.
伦敦台 菲尔比专访 百代新闻社
右边的哈罗德·菲尔比先生 Mr Harold Philby, on the right,
召开新闻发布会 否认其与伯吉斯 holds a press conference to deny charges that he was involved
和麦克莱恩失踪有关的指控 in the disappearance of Burgess and Maclean.
这位43岁的前外交部官员 The 43-year-old former Foreign Office diplomat
对指控他的一位国会议员提出质疑 has challenged his accuser, an MP,
要求他在下议院外再次指控 to repeat the charges outside the Commons.
菲尔比先生 外交大臣麦克米伦先生 Mr Philby. Mr MacMillan, the Foreign Secretary,
声称没有证据证明 said there was no evidence that
你就是传闻中向伯吉斯和麦克莱恩 you were the so-called "Third Man"
通风报信的所谓"第三人" who allegedly tipped off Burgess and Maclean.
你认同他的说法吗 Are you satisfied with that clearance that he gave you?
是的 我认同 Yes, I am.
事实上 如果有第三人的存在 你是这个人吗 Well, if there WAS a third man, were you, in fact, the third man?
不 我不是 No, I was not.
你认为有这样一个人吗 Do you think there was one?
无可奉告 No comment.
菲尔比先生 伯吉斯和麦克莱恩 Mr Philby, the disappearance of Burgess and Maclean
在大概四年前或更久前逃跑了 is almost as much of a mystery today
这件事无论是在当时 as it was when they went away -
还是现在都是个谜 about four years ago or more.
你能对此作出解释吗 Can you shed any light on it at all?
不 我不能 No, I can't.
首先 作为一名前政府官员 In the first place, I'm debarred by the Official Secrets Act
受《官方保密法》约束 from saying anything that might disclose...
我不能发表任何 ..information derived from my position
可能泄露职务信息的言论 as a former government official.
其次 伯吉斯和麦克莱恩事件 In the second place, the Burgess-Maclean affair
已经上升到了国际事务层面 has raised issues of great delicacy
涉及许多敏感问题 in the sphere of international affairs.
外交大臣在过去还声称 And the Foreign Secretary has said that in the past,
你曾与共党过从甚密 you had communist associations.
这是你被辞退的原因吗 Is that why you were asked to resign?
我被辞退只因我交友不慎 I was asked to resign because of an imprudent association.
是指你和伯吉斯的交往吗 That was your association with Burgess.
没错 Correct.
那这些与共党关联的说法呢 What about these alleged communist associations?
你能谈谈这些吗 Can you say anything about them?
上一次我在知道对方共党身份情况下 The last time I spoke to a communist,
还与其交谈是1934年的某天 knowing him to be a communist, was sometime in 1934.
也就是说 That rather implies
你还与其他共党分子交谈过 that you've also spoken to communists unknowingly
但你当时并不知其身份 and you now know about it.
我最后一次和伯吉斯交谈 Well, I spoke to Burgess last in
是在1951年的四月或五月 April or May of 1951.
你如今还会把伯吉斯 Would you still regard Burgess, who...
你们在华盛顿一起住过一段时间 lived with you for a while in Washington,
你还把他当朋友吗 would you still regard him as a friend of yours?
你现在对他有什么看法 How do you feel about him now?
他的所作所为理应受到谴责 I consider his action deplorable.
关于我和他的友谊 On the subject of friendship,
我还是少说一点 I prefer to say as little as possible,
因为事情很复杂 because it's very complicated.
真是一场精湛的演出 A virtuoso performance.
天哪 Good God.
你这话是我想的那个意思吗 Are you suggesting what I think you are?
你和尼古拉斯·艾利奥特在贝鲁特到底发生了什么 What really happened in Beirut between you and Nicholas Elliott?
我想得没错 你说我是个骗子 You are. You're calling me a liar.
将被载入史册的骗子 Who will go down in history.
永生的天父 Eternal Father...
将祂的儿耶稣基督送到天堂的宝座 whose son Jesus Christ was sent to the throne of Heaven...
使祂能以主和王的身份 that he might rule over all things
掌管万有 as Lord and King...
使教会保持圣灵合一 ..keep the church in the unity of the spirit
保持和平一体 and in the bond of peace...
使一切受造之物在祂脚前敬拜 and bring the whole created order to worship at his feet,
祂还活着 在圣灵合一中 who is alive and reigns with you
与你们一同为王 in the unity of the Holy Spirit.
唯一的神 从现在到永远 One God, now and forever.
-阿门 -阿门 - Amen. - Amen.
现在请跟我一起念主祷文 And now will you join me in the Lord's Prayer?
我在天上的父 Our father Which art in heaven
愿人都尊你的名为圣 Hallowed be thy name
愿你的国降临 Thy kingdom come
愿你的旨意 Thy will be done
行在地上 如同行在天上 On Earth as it is in heaven...
-我想也许你想喝杯茶 -谢谢 - Thought you might like a cuppa. - Thank you.
一点就好 Mm, just a drop.
-抱歉 -谢谢 - Sorry. - Thank you.
我有糖尿病 I'm diabetic.
我有时会忘记带药 Sometimes, I forget to take my medicine
别告诉我妻子 不然她会训我 don't tell my wife - and gets the better of me.
-我们刚说到 -我知道我们在说什么 - We were talking about... - I know what we were talking about.
要葡萄干饼干吗 Squashed fly?
谢谢 Thank you.
没有什么交换条件 There was no quid pro quo.
没有最后出于友情网开一面 No final act of friendship.
没有 No.
你为什么投身于情报部 What made you go into intelligence?
当时战争一触即发 我想尽绵薄之力 We were on the brink of war, and I wanted to do my bit...
但最好不要不去行军或列队训练 without doing all that marching and square-bashing,
如果可能的话 if at all... possible.
我今天没时间去商店买方糖了 I won't have time to get to the shops today...
我丈夫总是忘记买 ..and my husband always forgets.
我七岁时 父母把我送去读寄宿学校 When I was seven, my parents sent me off to boarding school.
满是地板油和蛋奶沙司气味的残酷地方 A brutal place that reeked of floor polish and custard.
有时晚上 大家都睡着了 Sometimes, at night, when everyone was asleep,
我爬上屋顶 I'd climb out on the roofs,
在屋顶上想象自己是基督山伯爵... where I'd imagine that I was the Count of Monte Cristo...
大仲马长篇小说 主角被奸人所陷入狱 越狱后惩戒仇人
以监视 散播假情报 蓄意搞破坏的手段 and plot my enemies' downfall by means of surveillance,
算计搞垮我的敌人 disinformation, sabotage.
菲尔比为什么给苏联人当间谍 Why did Philby spy for the Russians?
间谍活动有时会令人上瘾 Espionage can at times be... intoxicating.
蒙骗敌人的刺激感对我们多数人而言 'But where the thrill of fooling your enemy
可能已经足够了 'might be enough for most of us,
但似乎对于金而言不够 'it is not, it appears, sufficient for Kim.'
背叛朋友 欺骗间谍同僚 Double-crossing your friends, lying to your fellow spies...
肯定很... ..must have been...
艾利奥特 等下 Ah, Elliott, oh, hold on.
艾利奥特 是你啊 Oh, Elliott, oh, just the fellow.
请坐 我想和你坦诚地聊聊 Please, have a seat. I would like a frank word with you.
请讲 先生 Certainly, sir.
-你妻子知道你的工作吗 -知道 - Does your wife know what you do? - Yes.
她怎么知道的 Er, how did that come about?
她给我当过两年秘书 Well, she was my secretary for two years,
然后我想她就懂了 and I think the penny must have dropped.
对 安静安静 那你母亲知道吗 Yes, quite so, quite, quite. And what about your mother?
她认为我为SIS工作 She thinks I work for something called SIS,
她以为是秘密情报局 which she believes stands for Secret Intelligence Service.
天啊 她是怎么知道的 Good God! How did she come to know that?
战争内阁的...一个成员... A war cabinet... A member...
鸡尾酒会上 一个战时内阁撞到了她 A war cabinet fell on her at a cocktail party.
天啊 肯定带来了不少伤害 Oh, goodness! That must've caused all sorts of damage.
鸡尾酒会上战时内阁一名成员告诉她的 A member of the war cabinet told her at a cocktail party.
没错 确实如此 It's true. It's actually true.
-那他是共产党吧 -并无区别 - But he IS a communist? - Oh. Chicken, egg...
请看下 Please.
我觉得这看上去不像敌人 That does not look like enemies to me.
顺便说一句 我讨厌"叛徒"这个词 The reason, by the way, I don't like the word "traitor"
是因为我不是叛徒 is because I'm not a fucking traitor.
我成年后一直忠于马克思主义 I've been loyal to Marxism and to the Soviet Union
和苏联 my entire adult life.
你们在这里聊了什么 What were you talking about here?
不知道 I don't know.
我只记得那间公寓越来越闷得慌 All I remember is it was getting rather stuffy in that flat.
只是七天前 It was seven days ago.
我们每天都喝酒 尼古拉斯很机敏 We were drinking every day, and Nicholas is nothing if not witty.
机敏 Witty?
显然他知道克格勃在监视 He obviously knew the KGB were watching
他就想把这些怀疑的种子植入你的脑中 and wanted to plant exactly these seeds of doubt in your mind.
这个呢 And there?
我不记得了 I don't remember.
知道我看着像什么吗 You know what it looks like to me?
我想用你们的话说就是..."同谋者" I think you say... "partners in crime".
我的老天 哥们 For God's sake, man,
我没有被英国情报组织策反 I have not been turned by British intelligence.
我不得已逃跑 不然他们会杀了我 I had to run, otherwise, they would've killed me.
我别无选择 I had no other option.
你真以为我想来这吗 Do you seriously think I wanted to come here?
抱歉 I'm sorry.
我一时口误 Slip of the tongue.
同志 我不信你口误过 I don't believe you've ever had a slip of the tongue, comrade.
"交换条件" 我是指... By "quid pro quo", what I mean is...
这个词我熟 I'm familiar with the term.
或许你放他走是为了得到某些东西吗 ..maybe you let him go in exchange for something?
为了得到能让你事业回春的 Some important piece of information...
重要情报 that might resurrect your career?
-那不是很好吗 -但愿不是 天佑英国 - Wouldn't that be nice? - Or, God forbid, protect England.
我没放他走 I didn't let him go.
最后一天 你们都去了阳台上 On the last day, you both go out onto the balcony.
连续四天 你们都在那个公寓见面 For four consecutive days, you meet in that flat
一天待在一起大概八小时 for roughly eight hours a day.
你们只去了阳台一次 Only once do you go out onto the balcony,
大概总共有三分钟 for a sum total of about three minutes.
谁啊 Who is it?
来修门的 女士 'Come to look at the door for you, miss.'
好的 Oh, right.
稍等一下 Yeah, hold on a minute, please.
我想让金的苏联朋友看到我们在一起 I wanted Kim's Russian friends, if they were out there,
如果他们当时也在场的话 to see him and me together.
你不知道公寓里的窃听器 Were you aware that the bug in the flat
听不到阳台上的声音吗 couldn't hear you out on the balcony?
我没想那么多 Can't say I gave it much thought.
也就是说 你不在乎 In other words, you didn't care.
我在意的是让金说真话 What I... cared about was getting Kim to tell the truth.
等一下 泰德 Hold on, Ted!
-我被捕了吗 -没有 - Am I under arrest? - No.
好 Good.
因为我妻子安排了今晚去看剧 Cos my wife's arranged tickets for the theatre tonight.
-你们准备看什么 -她准备给我个惊喜 - What are you gonna see? - She's surprising me.
很显然 我需要振奋一下 Apparently, I need cheering up.
去肯辛顿宫花园 Kensington Palace Gardens, please.
苏联大使馆 Russian Embassy.
众所周知 秘密情报处的那家伙 'Your typical SIS man, as we all know,
在他的成长过程中 'concurrent with his upbringing,
一直都自认为是秘密精英俱乐部一员 'considers himself to be part of a secret, elite club,
而这种组织不受制度约束 'which, by design, has no rules.
因为规章制度是用来管教平民的 'Because rules... by design, are strictly for commoners...
比如我们军情五处的人 'like us here at MI5.'
在许多方面 秘密情报处真正的敌人是形势改变 In many ways, SIS's real enemy is a change to the status quo
那会威胁到他们的组织 that might, erm... threaten the existence of their club.
因此对他们来说 菲尔比最大的罪行是 So for them, Philby's worst crime
他打破了不成文的规定 is that he broke their one unwritten rule,
这个规定就是谁都不能以任何方式 which is that no member should ever do anything
让平民审视他们的存在 that might expose them all to the scrutiny of the peasants...
或者 让女人审视他们 Or, God forbid, a woman.
所以我想艾利奥特先生 So I wonder if Mr Elliott
是否是自己坚持要去贝鲁特 insisted he be the one to go to Beirut
这样他和菲尔比就能找到或者 so that he and Philby could find or...
谢谢 Thank you.
做出最后关头的补救办法 ..create some sort of last-minute save.
比如说 For example...
要是他去那里发起一场行动 ..what if he went out there to initiate...
来让菲尔比回到克格勃 an operation to run Philby back at the KGB?
该死 你是认真的 Bloody hell, you actually mean that.
为了我们的老朋友 For our old friend.
抱歉 我只是不相信 I'm sorry, I just don't believe...
秘密情报处有那么不择手段 That SIS are that devious?
如果他们打算让菲尔比回苏联 If they were running Philby back into the USSR,
他们会告诉我们的 they'd have told us.
那他们真是贴心 亚瑟 不像你 Well, that's sweet, Arthur. Quite unlike you.
或者至少 Or at the very least,
他们应该告诉我们别插手 one would think they'd have asked us to back off.
别管艾利奥特 Leave Elliott alone.
要是他甚至没告诉秘密情报处呢 What if he didn't even tell SIS what he was up to?
出租车到了 Taxi's here.
你真美啊 You look stunning.
你跟丢他了 怎么回事 You lost him? How?
他是行家 肯定的 He's a pro, for sure.
他在教堂溜走了 换了帽子和外套 He gave me the slip in the church. Switched hat and coat.
现在他消失了 不知道去哪了 Now he's in the fucking wind. Long gone.
也就是他肯定不可能 Which means he almost certainly is not.
有人吗 Hello?
你不知道公寓里的窃听器 'Were you aware that the bug in the flat
听不到阳台上的声音吗 'couldn't hear you out on the balcony?'
我没想那么多 'Can't say I gave it too much thought.'
-也就是说 你不在乎 -我 - 'In other words, you didn't care.' - 'What I...'
在意的是 "..cared about...'
-你回家多久了 -不 别被我打扰 - How long have you been there? - No. Don't let me interrupt you.
别说傻话了 过来 Don't be daft. Come here.
再来一下 More, please.
对 这才是我想要的 Yeah, boy. That... was what I needed.
看看你 Look at you!
现在几点了 我完全忘记时间 What's the time? I totally lost track.
我很抱歉 你一定饿坏了 I'm so sorry, you must be starving.
你要不要生个火 我去弄点晚饭吃 Do you wanna light a fire and I'll rustle us up some supper?
你想喝啤酒吗 亲爱的 Do you want a beer, love?
感谢 约翰 Thanks, John.
就是这里 Here we are.
他在黑海的某个苏联港口 'He's at some Russian port on the Black Sea.'
工作怎么样 How was work?
现在正是流感季节 Flu season, you know?
每天都是排长队 And with all the long waits these days,
找我看病的人翻了将近十倍 which can be up to ten times as long for my patients,
我唯一能做的就是阻止他们患上肺炎 it's all I can do to stop them from catching pneumonia, you know?
我相信你 亲爱的 I believe in you, love.
这个太好吃了 很美味 This is delicious. Very tasty.
那天剩下的炖菜 Stew left over from the other day.
*今晚你寂寞吗* *Are you lonesome tonight?*
*今晚思念我吗* *Do you miss me tonight?*
*你是否难过* *Oh! Are you sorry*
*我们...我们各自天涯* *We... We drifted apart?*
-你在干什么 -我在唱歌 不是吗 - What you doing? - Well, I-I'm singing, aren't I?
*你是否...* *Are you...*
嘣 Boom!
给他们来个"噢" 锡德 Give 'em an "ooh", Sid.
噢 Ooh!
你不想参与是吧 Didn't wanna part with that, did you?
我给你们起个头 一...二... I'll give you a two-in, here we go. A one... two...
-嘣 -噢 - A boom. - Ooh!
呀哒哒哒 Ya-ta-ta-tah.
-嘣 -噢 - A boom. - Ooh!
-呀哒哒哒 -*今晚你寂寞吗* - Ya-ta-ta-tah. - *Are you lonesome tonight?*
-*你是否难过我们各自天涯* -停 停 住口 -*Are you sorry we drifted...* - Just... Just... No, stop!
嘣 Boom!
嘣 A boom...
-嘣 -就有一点 - A boom. - Just a little.
我在说呀哒哒哒 I'm ya-ta-ta-tah-ing, you see.
-当然 -不 你不应该 - Oh, of course. - No, you shouldn't be.
不 难道我应该唱"今晚你寂寞吗" No, I should be singing Are You Lonesome Tonight?
因为你有络胡腮 你是明星 Cos you've got the sideboards. You're the star.
我径直走到这儿 I go right down to here.
这位明星有点问题 There's something gone wrong with the star.
我知道了 Oh, I know!
锡德 你给我们起个头 数一二好吗 Sid - you start us off. Give us the one-two, will you?
-然后就好了 -一 二 - Then you'll be all right. - A one, two...
-嘣 -呀哒哒哒 - A boom. - Ya-ta-ta-tah!
*今晚你寂寞吗* *Are you lonesome tonight?*
*你是否难过我们各自天涯* *Are you sorry we drifted apart?*
*你是否还记得* *Does your memory stray*
*一个阳光明媚的日子* *To a bright, sunny day*
*当我亲吻了你* *When I kissed you*
*你唤我甜心* *And called you sweetheart?*
*你客厅的椅子* *Do the chairs in your parlour*
*是否空空如也* *Seem empty and bare?*
*你是否痴望着你的门阶* *Do you gaze at your doorstep*
*幻想我在那里* *And picture me there?*
*你的心是否满是伤痕* *Is your heart filled with pain?*
*我是否该再回来* *Shall I come back again?*
*告诉我 亲爱的* *Tell me, dear*
*今晚你寂寞吗* *Are you lonesome tonight?*
我今天审问了一个男人 I interviewed this man today...
没关系 亲爱的 It's OK, my love.
我知道你不能谈论你的工作 I know you're not allowed to talk about your work.
他刚刚发现自己超过二十年的挚友... ..who's just found out that his best friend of over 20 years...
其实一直在背叛他 ..has been betraying him all along.
多久 How long?
23年 23 years.
他才发现吗 And he only just found out?
你说对了 中情局 You were spot on. CIA.
-安格勒顿吗 -詹姆斯本尊 - Angleton? - James Jesus in the flesh.
我们先按兵不动 Let's keep that under our hats for now.
你是想让我死吗 Are you trying to get me killed?
这倒是个好主意 Now, there's a thought.
你不是真这么想的 You don't really mean that.
给我一个好的理由 为什么不呢 金 Give me one good reason why not, Kim.
最好是个好理由 And it better be a fucking good one.
你知道吗 尼克 You know, Nick...
我们都想知道在贝鲁特发生了什么 ..we're all wondering what happened in Beirut.
而我很难相信你居然空手而归 And I for one find it hard to believe you came back empty-handed.